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    May 6, 2021, 07:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    How do you know who they are now? Isn't that why we wear masks and social distance? Besides, if you have taken the shots, then why would you need to know?
    I haven't. Can't get out of my house. Haven't been out since 09/11/2020.
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    May 6, 2021, 07:51 PM
    Medical issues? Very sorry if that's the case.
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    May 6, 2021, 07:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    How do you know who they are now?
    No one knows. That's the point of getting the vaccine.

    Isn't that why we wear masks and social distance?
    The anti-vaxxers don't wear masks or social distance.

    Besides, if you have taken the shots, then why would you need to know?
    Not about knowing or not knowing. Herd immunity comes from taking the vaccine.
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    May 6, 2021, 08:13 PM
    The anti-vaxxers don't wear masks or social distance.
    And you know this how?

    If you want to be protected, take the Trump vaccine. If you don't trust the vaccine, then don't take it. Seems pretty simple. In no case should the feds force people to take the vaccine.
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    May 6, 2021, 08:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    In no case should the feds force people to take the vaccine.
    Exactly! Let them die! Or kill Grandma and Uncle Ned!
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    May 6, 2021, 08:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    In no case should the feds force people to take the vaccine.
    Why not?
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    May 6, 2021, 10:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I haven't. Can't get out of my house. Haven't been out since 09/11/2020.
    If you can't get out of your house you have minimum risk
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    May 6, 2021, 11:36 PM
    A little issue called "freedom".
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    May 6, 2021, 11:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    A little issue called "freedom".
    If you're referring to my post, your issue sure is little. The necessity of fighting a worldwide pandemic trumps your little issue.
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    May 7, 2021, 09:19 AM
    There is no need for any individual to take a shot in order to fight a worldwide pandemic. In our state we have reduced the number of cases dramatically. Some people are vaccinated, but by no means a majority. We are doing wildly better than many states like NY, and better than many nations like Germany and France. We will not surrender our liberties to some shrill voice of panic.

    BTW, my wife and I have both taken the vaccine. I would suggest anyone over fifty to take it or those with serious health problems. No problem, but I will not participate at all in forcing others to do so.
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    May 7, 2021, 09:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    We will not surrender our liberties to some shrill voice of panic.
    Don't move to India.
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    May 7, 2021, 10:18 AM
    I see no need to force anyone to take a shot however I would hope in the interest of all of us getting back to good health and safety that we would do so voluntarily. The life you save may be your own or someone you really care about. Hope for the best but plan for the worst is probably the way this is going to work out. We'll see won't we?
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    May 7, 2021, 10:25 AM
    Love it or lose it.
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    May 7, 2021, 01:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There is no need for any individual to take a shot in order to fight a worldwide pandemic.
    The need is for as many as possible to take the shot to fight a worldwide pandemic. No one suggests a single individual is enough.
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    May 7, 2021, 01:47 PM
    So you are saying individuals do not have to comply? Well then, we agree.
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    May 7, 2021, 01:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you are saying individuals do not have to comply? Well then, we agree.
    The need is for as many as possible to take the shot to fight a worldwide pandemic.
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    May 7, 2021, 01:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    The need is for as many as possible to take the shot to fight a worldwide pandemic.
    Don't get no more easy as that.
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    May 7, 2021, 02:18 PM
    If anyone wants to be protected, they take the shot. Others don't feel the need for it. Fine with me.
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    May 7, 2021, 02:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If anyone wants to be protected, they take the shot. Others don't feel the need for it.
    Those who don't take the shot are putting their children and families in danger.
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    May 7, 2021, 03:01 PM
    If they don't have Covid they're putting no one at risk. Besides, there is no real risk to children from Covid. Surely our all knowing, all glorious government can leave some decisions up to free Americans.
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