[jlisenbe]

We are just back to defining love.

[waltero]

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

You think you can run with that?

Yup!

I'm Guilty. No matter how hard I try, I haven't been able to love God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength.

Hmmm, could it be the Translation that is at fault?
If I could only find a translation that says "Love God with all your mind," than I'm in like Flynn!!!
(Maybe I shall look up the Book Of Mormon...It works For Athos)

[talaniman]

Beware humans!! You have a long history of screwing things up, even with the best of intentions!

[tomder55]

Sorta the progressive playbook IMO

[Athos]

Historically, imo, it's the right-wing fascist playbook, although never with the best intentions.

[tomder55]

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”(CS Lewis)

[jlisenbe]

Two concepts which depend on each other are freedom and personal responsibility. It's what no liberal dems and distressingly few repubs talk about.

[paraclete]

Freedom is like truth, it is in the eye of the beholder

[jlisenbe]

Freedom is like truth, it is in the eye of the beholder

So if you believe what you just wrote, to you it's true, but if I don't believe it, then to me it is not true??? You really believe that? Surely you misstated something, or I misread it.

[paraclete]

So if you believe what you just wrote, to you it's true, but if I don't believe it, then to me it is not true??? You really believe that? Surely you misstated something, or I misread it.

Your sarcasm antennae are switched off

[talaniman]

Two concepts which depend on each other are freedom and personal responsibility. It's what no liberal dems and distressingly few repubs talk about.

Says the guy who voted for the devil to get what he wants at the expense of the freedom of others. Will you take personal responsibility for that? Conservatives have not so far, and I doubt repubs ever will.

[jlisenbe]

Your sarcasm antennae are switched off

I am relieved to hear that.

Read this tonight by Douglas Groothusis. "Truth is a daunting, difficult thing; it is also the greatest thing in the world. Yet we are chronically ambivalent toward it. We seek it...and we fear it. Our better side wants to pursue truth wherever it leads; our darker side balks when the truth begins to lead us anywhere we do not want to go."

[paraclete]

True indeed

[jlisenbe]

40% of American adults have now received at least one vaccine shot. The figure in Europe is 11%. Why? Because Operation Warpspeed provided an effective vaccine far more quickly then the Europeans did. Our Covid cases are dropping while theirs is still high. Just giving credit where credit is due.

[paraclete]

Hear you have the same problems with blood clots as we do

[jlisenbe]

I think that has been the case along with a runaway pneumonia that can be hard to treat.

[jlisenbe]

[paraclete]

Don't you know Earth is the centre of the universe

[jlisenbe]

Is this Maxine Waters openly calling for violence?

"U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., showed up at an anti-police brutality protest in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, on Saturday evening, saying demonstrators needed to "stay on the street," demanding justice until police reform becomes a reality."I’m going to fight with all of the people who stand for justice," Waters told reporters shortly before an 11 p.m. curfew. "We’ve got to get justice in this country and we cannot allow these killings to continue."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/max...-in-floyd-case

[talaniman]

No. That's you being obstinate.