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    Jan 4, 2021, 09:01 AM
    Mark Your Calendars
    January 21, 2021.


    The date Trump is eligible to face formal charges of money laundering, insurance fraud, rape, campaign finance violations, lying under oath, bribery, conspiracy, and treason.

    (with thanks to DW)
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    Jan 4, 2021, 10:02 AM
    Plus someone Trump's married to may file for divorce.
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    Jan 4, 2021, 10:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Plus someone Trump's married to may file for divorce.
    That, too.
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    Jan 4, 2021, 10:53 AM
    What happened to your unconditional love?? Just seeing a lot of vengeful hate here.
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    Jan 4, 2021, 06:41 PM
    I think it sounds more like glee
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    Jan 4, 2021, 07:03 PM
    Whatever happened with the Australian coal embargoed at Chinese ports. Was that ever resolved?
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    Jan 4, 2021, 08:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I think it sounds more like glee
    Definitely GLEE!
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    Jan 4, 2021, 08:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Whatever happened with the Australian coal embargoed at Chinese ports. Was that ever resolved?
    No the trade war with China goes on, they happily freeze while our ships sit outside their ports. The thing is; the impact is isolated while China is a big part of our export market, it represents a small part of our economy really. The effects of the trade war will be felt in tourism, education and mining sectors mainly, but local effects due to covid are a more pressing problem.

    Very soon they will feel the effects of famine too and they will change their tune. Wolf Warrior tactics only work when the other side doesn't have alternatives
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    Jan 5, 2021, 07:38 AM
    It will be interesting to see what the Chinese do next. I would think they have thought this out pretty carefully. We’ll see.
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    Jan 5, 2021, 07:52 AM
    Georgia votes today for senate control, and the dufus failing in the courts and states depends on Pence to save him tomorrow from being a humiliated loser. Fireworks to follow for sure either way.
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    Jan 5, 2021, 09:17 AM
    DC is bringing out the National Guard to control the Trump thugs.
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    Jan 5, 2021, 03:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It will be interesting to see what the Chinese do next. I would think they have thought this out pretty carefully. We’ll see.
    No I think it is reactionary, obviously with coal they haven't thought it out, they have replaced high quality coal with mongolian rubbish and the thing with agriculture doesn't make a lot of sense
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    Jan 5, 2021, 04:39 PM
    they haven't thought it out
    I somehow doubt that, but we'll see. It is certainly possible.
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    Jan 5, 2021, 04:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I somehow doubt that, but we'll see. It is certainly possible.
    Yes the Chinese have invested heavily in Australian agriculture, they own a number of wineries yet they have imposed punitive tariffs on Australian wine, they have damaged the Australian lobster industry but that is a high end product that can be exported to other markets and they have just made it cheaper locally and beef can go to places like Indonesia. We haven't retaliated yet but it seems pointless anyway we don't favour Chinese autos considering them second rate, there are plenty of places we can source white goods from. All we need to do is stop iron ore exports and we would cripple their industries for a time.

    Because they operate in a large way such as fisheries they don't realise that our industries are not of the same scale and are much more efficient so that the economic impact isn't high
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    Jan 5, 2021, 06:00 PM
    Sounds like you guys are in good shape. We'll see how it pans out.
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    Jan 5, 2021, 06:15 PM
    yes covid recession has receded and we have few cases but some panic reaction, no China based recession which was probably the intention, we don't bow to mandarins
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    Jan 6, 2021, 09:34 AM
    I think you are the victim of the dufus trade wars as we have been, and like us you just have to wait it out until a better business climate emerges.
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    Jan 6, 2021, 02:35 PM
    No we are a victim of speaking out asking for an investigation in Wuhan which the Chinese are still avoiding even from the WHO. They have done a lot of deflecting but it seems covid was a laboratory experiment that escaped and one wonders what was the purpose of that research?
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    Jan 7, 2021, 08:48 AM
    it seems covid was a laboratory experiment that escaped
    It does seem to be true. I'm sure Mr. Biden will hold their feet to the fire on this deal, or at least on days when he can remember who China is.
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    Jan 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
    China is an easy target, he will have to deal with the EU too
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