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Athos · Dec 9, 2020, 02:37 PM

Discarding the Constitutional method of voting to elect a president, Trump now leads a coup to overturn the election by relying on the courts – courts he has packed over his 4 years and now expecting payback from those judges. His record is now something like 0 for 60 and include the most bizarre allegations right out of QANON. His legal team is the Keystone Kops of the legal world.

Seeking conservative ideologues instead of judicially qualified judges, his federal judge appointments were so bad some never made it through the initial process. But, for those that did, even ideologues have their limits.

Possessed by a syndrome named after his derangement, he now expects his SC appointments to bail him out and call him the winner of the election and name him the next president of the United States. So far has he fallen.

He rails and screams against anyone who says anything the least bit uncomplimentary about him, no matter their party. As he spirals downward into the maelstrom of his insanity, the hope is that wiser and cooler heads are watching him and will prevent Trump from doing anything his madness will drive him to.

The majority of Republicans who are refusing to recognize Biden's election are a disgrace, enabling Trump's insanity.

talaniman · Dec 9, 2020, 03:29 PM

Repubs are afraid of his still huge base voters that's actually grown bigger. He may not be president soon but he is still the leader of this loony cult.

paraclete · Dec 9, 2020, 03:39 PM

All this is just classic Trump; deny, deny, deny. deny the legality of Obama, deny the legality of Biden, deny Russia gate, deny refugees entry. While claiming to be a positive influence Trump has been a negative influence in many ways. He has forced China into a more aggressive role, he has denied CV19 and forced america into a devastating pandemic and it goes on, like a broken record

Athos · Dec 9, 2020, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

All this is just classic Trump; deny, deny, deny. deny the legality of Obama, deny the legality of Biden, deny Russia gate, deny refugees entry. While claiming to be a positive influence Trump has been a negative influence in many ways. He has forced China into a more aggressive role, he has denied CV19 and forced america into a devastating pandemic and it goes on, like a broken record

Originally posted by talinman
Repubs are afraid of his still huge base voters that's actually grown bigger. He may not be president soon but he is still the leader of this loony cult.

Loony cult it is plus all the denials.

The loony AG in Texas has filed a suit in the SC challenging the vote in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Texas AG Paxton himself is already being investigated by the FBI for crooked dealings. He has no oversight in any of those states, but that hasn't stopped him. Nor has it stopped 17 Republican AGs from other states in support of his suit. No, I'm not making up any of that Republican cultish loony-ness.

Of course, there's not a chance in hell any of that will succeed. So why is Paxton doing it? Read on.

He is signalling Trump for a pardon of his criminal activity. Trump loves to pardon wrong doers. However, Trump loves to execute certain other wrong doers.

Since July, he has ordered the execution of 13 criminals on death row with five remaining to be executed by January 20. This is the greatest number of federal executions in 17 years, all being carried out during an election year to emphasize Trump's "law and order" platform. Trump is the most prolific execution president in 130 years.

In Trump's fevered brain, these executions represent those Democrats he wants executed for treason.

January 20 can't come soon enough.

paraclete · Dec 9, 2020, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

In Trump's fevered brain, these executions represent those Democrats he wants executed for treason.

January 20 can't come soon enough.

Executing criminals is not up to Trump, he has the power to pardon not execute. You cannot know what is in his mind so rhetoric doesn't cut it

Athos · Dec 9, 2020, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Executing criminals is not up to Trump, he has the power to pardon not execute. You cannot know what is in his mind so rhetoric doesn't cut it

Pay attention, paraclete. You don't know as much as you think you know about the USA.

The Trump administration, which carried out a slew of federal executions this year after a 17-year hiatus, has slated five more prisoners to be put to death between now and President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, two of them within days of the transfer of power. These will be the most federal executions ever carried out during a presidential transition period.

The federal government hadn’t conducted a single federal execution since 2003 until Trump and Barr started the spree this year with, so far, eight executions. If all 13 executions are carried out as scheduled, President Donald Trump would have meted out more death to American prisoners in a single year in office than any presidency since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 12 years in office.

Trump is the same person who took out a full page ad in a New York newspaper calling for death to the Central Park Five. The teenagers were later found innocent, and he never withdrew his call for their execution.

Trump also called for his Democratic opponents to be tried for treason. Treason carries the death penalty.

What type of person supports an individual like him?

paraclete · Dec 9, 2020, 09:08 PM

He has strong opinions and maybe he gets it wrong sometimes however he is asking for the law to be applied

Athos · Dec 9, 2020, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

He has strong opinions and maybe he gets it wrong sometimes however he is asking for the law to be applied

Selectively. The law has nothing to do with it. Trump wants to do the killing because Joe Biden opposes capital punishment. No other reason other than it puts him in with his pals in North Korea, China and Russia.

The final executions are pointedly scheduled the day before the inauguration so Biden doesn't miss it.

Trump is pure evil as I've been saying on these pages for 4 years now.

paraclete · Dec 10, 2020, 02:23 PM

where do you get these assumptions? from the tabloid press or is there a conspiracy site you visit?

Athos · Dec 10, 2020, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

where do you get these assumptions? from the tabloid press or is there a conspiracy site you visit?

Simple. I get them from Trump's documented behavior for decades. I leave the conspiracy sites to the far right and to Trump's sycophants.

paraclete · Dec 10, 2020, 03:42 PM

you sure fooled me!

talaniman · Dec 10, 2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Selectively. The law has nothing to do with it. Trump wants to do the killing because Joe Biden opposes capital punishment. No other reason other than it puts him in with his pals in North Korea, China and Russia.

The final executions are pointedly scheduled the day before the inauguration so Biden doesn't miss it.

Trump is pure evil as I've been saying on these pages for 4 years now.

He has never passed on an opportunity for control or bullying, or anything else that breaks the china, or bring him a few bucks or distracts from some other nefarious thing he's doing.

jlisenbe · Dec 10, 2020, 04:47 PM

Here are some of the people.

Alfred Bourgeois was sentenced to death by a Texas jury for sexually and physically abusing, torturing and beating his 3 year old daughter to death in 2002, and is scheduled to be executed on Dec. 11.

Orlando Cordia Hall, 49, was executed last week after a federal jury in 1995 found him guilty of kidnapping, raping and killing a Texas teenager.

Lisa Montgomery, 52, is scheduled to be executed on Jan. 12. Montgomery was convicted in 2004 for killing a pregnant woman and cutting the baby out.

Dustin John Higgs was convicted in 2000 of kidnapping and murdering three women. His execution is set to take place on Jan. 15.

Seems a shame that none of you give a rip about the victims. You didn't even bother to find out why these people were given the death penalty. I feel sorry for the people who committed these crimes, but execution is completely appropriate for them when you consider the enormous suffering the people they so callously murdered went through. I imagine the family members of the victims feel the same way.

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2020, 04:52 PM

Why weren't they given a speedy execution, but have languished in prison cells for years, even decades?

jlisenbe · Dec 10, 2020, 04:55 PM

Well, they are not "languishing" now. As to why the wait, as you so often say, Google is your friend.

talaniman · Dec 10, 2020, 04:56 PM

No doubt they do as do the families of the 8000 covid victims so far this week, and the hundred of thousands before them.

jlisenbe · Dec 10, 2020, 05:14 PM

Quite naturally you failed to mention the 900,000 babies INTENTIONALLY aborted every year. In fact you ONLY mentioned people who have died from illness that you think you can blame on Trump. Wonder why? Politics?

Wondergirl · Dec 10, 2020, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Quite naturally you failed to mention the 900,000 babies INTENTIONALLY aborted every year.

How many babies has Trump asked his wives and girlfriends to abort?

jlisenbe · Dec 10, 2020, 05:45 PM

None as far as I know. Can you prove any? How about Biden? How about Harris?

jlisenbe · Dec 10, 2020, 06:05 PM

Here's some others.

Brandon Bernard was 18 years old along with Christopher Vialva and others when they were convicted for the 1999 murder in Texas. It was reported that they murdered a pair of ministers in Texas.

Johnson's execution is scheduled for January 14. He was convicted after he killed seven people in 1992 as a part of the drug trade in Virginia.