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    Nov 20, 2020, 12:34 PM
    It Had To Be Seen To Be Believed
    The Giuliani/Powell press conference yesterday was the most bizarre press conference in the history of the US.

    From a forehead dripping with black hair dye and streaming down his face, things just got bizarre-er and bizarre-er as only FOX-News ran it the entire 90 minutes without interruption. The mainstream media quickly dropped it as it became nuttier and nuttier.

    Sydney Powells' weird charges of "Communistic" (sic) influence stemming from Hugo Chavez (Chavez died 6 years ago!) to even weirder presidential vote tallies being counted in servers in Germany and Spain (servers now conveniently disappeared) and culminating by Giuliani admitting he had no evidence "at this time" because (hold on to your hat) the press conference was like an opening statement in a courtroom trial. The evidence comes later.

    Therefore, Rudy concluded, the election has to be discarded because gathering the evidence cannot be finished by the date of certification or when the electors vote. (Yes, he really said that, or something very like it).

    For skeptics, I've linked the Washington Post fact checker below for more details of this presser as Giuliani and Powell sink deeper and deeper into a morass of their own devising.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...0c1d6a2cddf50a
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    Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 PM
    certainly an event to be ignored
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    Nov 20, 2020, 12:58 PM
    (Yes, he really said that, or something very like it).
    Nothing like a really definitive statement. Either he really said it, or he said something like it, but both are not true.

    The Giuliani/Powell press conference yesterday was the most bizarre press conference in the history of the US.
    You've seen all of them? Wow.

    The courts will sort all of this out.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 01:01 PM
    for the record . I put no credence to so called fact checkers "facts " ;especially from the Compost .

    They do not have to present their evidence to the public. They are going to make their case to the judiciary .

    Time is running out . Once states start certifying results then at best they are presenting evidence for electoral reform .
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    Nov 20, 2020, 01:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    they are presenting evidence for electoral reform .
    Yes there would certainly seem to be need to that
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    Nov 20, 2020, 01:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    for the record . I put no credence to so called fact checkers "facts " ;especially from the Compost .
    Then you will remain ignorant. That is the usual condition of Trump supporters.

    They do not have to present their evidence to the public.
    Then what was the point of their press conference? To look foolish?

    They are going to make their case to the judiciary
    They tried that. At last count, they are 0 and 20.

    Time is running out . Once states start certifying results then at best they are presenting evidence for electoral reform .
    They don't have a clue what they're doing. For his idiocy, Rudy is billing Trump $20,000 a day. Not a chance in hell Trump will pay it. What he WILL do is charge it against his campaign expense - those monies donated by his followers for campaign expenses, NOT for Trump's legal expenses. Some people never learn. Trump calls them "SUCKERS".
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    Nov 20, 2020, 01:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    They don't have a clue what they're doing. For his idiocy, Rudy is billing Trump $20,000 a day. Not a chance in hell Trump will pay it. What he WILL do is charge it against his campaign expense - those monies donated by his followers for campaign expenses, NOT for Trump's personal legal expenses. Some people never learn. Trump calls them "SUCKERS".
    That must be why I'm getting calls from Republican (???) telemarketers to donate money in order to defray Trump's campaign expenses.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 01:56 PM
    Hopefully this clown show from RNC HQ is the winding down of this sham/farce/hustle. The dufus withdrew his Michigan lawsuits, and is focused on Michigan GOP lawmakers.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...votes-n1248254

    We should all be mindful of the shock and trauma associated with DWS...dufus withdrawal symptom and be especially sympathetic to its sufferers.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 02:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    We should all be mindful of the shock and trauma associated with DWS...dufus withdrawal symptom and be especially sympathetic to its sufferers.
    That's what Dr. Phil is about today, in particular getting through the holidays with family members who don't agree politically.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 03:27 PM
    there is one solution don't visit and avoid CV19
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    Nov 20, 2020, 03:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    there is one solution don't visit and avoid CV19
    Yes, use Skype or Zoom or other meeting rooms to chat with family members who are each at their own homes, munching on turkey legs and stuffing and broccoli and buttered rolls.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 03:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Yes, use Skype or Zoom or other meeting rooms to chat with family members who are each at their own homes, munching on turkey legs and stuffing and broccoli and buttered rolls.
    Hold the broccoli.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 04:16 PM
    Rudy is billing Trump $20,000 a day.
    Strictly rumor mill stuff, sadly presented here as truth.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 05:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Hold the broccoli.
    No, more broccoli with white sauce

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Strictly rumor mill stuff, sadly presented here as truth.
    he's a cheap lawyer, no wonder trump is losing. Rudi has covid, can he charge in isolation?
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    Nov 20, 2020, 06:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Strictly rumor mill stuff, sadly presented here as truth.
    Multiple sources say it's true.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 06:52 PM
    What are their names?
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    Nov 20, 2020, 07:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    What are their names?
    Tim, Sarah, Molly, Fred, Pete, and Rachel.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 07:57 PM
    Sure they are. Those unnamed sources have never made much impact on me.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 08:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Sure they are. Those unnamed sources have never made much impact on me.
    WH aides and several staff who asked to be nameless.
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    Nov 20, 2020, 08:54 PM
    The ultimate in plausible deniability.

    If Athos wants to post that info, then fine, but posting it as though it is anything more than a great big "maybe" is what I object to. It is pure speculation spurred on by the ever famous Unnamed Source.

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