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    #21

    Nov 17, 2020, 03:55 PM
    I see. You're not suggesting Trump colluded with the Russkies, except that you are.
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    #22

    Nov 17, 2020, 05:31 PM
    I suggest he was coordinating with Russia to get elected, and re elected.
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    #23

    Nov 17, 2020, 06:54 PM
    Russia doesn't decide the election, so coordinating with them is meaningless and once again, the theory has been debunked
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    Nov 18, 2020, 06:02 AM
    Not debunked, but enough people have become more aware of the game the dufus was playing and came forth to fire his a$$! That's the way to handle loonies Clete, keep them away from the power tools, and don't let them run loose without a chaperone.
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    #25

    Nov 18, 2020, 06:42 AM
    Who's going to keep the Harris/Biden/Pelosi loonie machine away from the power tools?
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    Nov 18, 2020, 06:45 AM
    I refer you to history. Dems have always come in to clean up the mess repubs made. I suggest you help out, or stay out of the way.
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    Nov 18, 2020, 06:46 AM
    I suggest you try and tell the truth. Trump had to come in and clean up the regulatory mess left by Obama. Once that was done, the economy, previously limping along, became truly healthy and set records in low unemployment, a fact which even you cannot deny.
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    #28

    Nov 18, 2020, 07:20 AM
    Easy to drive a car after a dem president pulls it out of a ditch and fixes it. Hey looki...it's in the ditch again, but don't worry, here come's JOE!

    Right on time...AGAIN to pull the car out of the ditch...AGAIN!

    From another dufus AGAIN! You gonna deny THAT (AGAIN)?
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    #29

    Nov 18, 2020, 08:13 AM
    If not for Covid, and you know this is true, the economy would be on cruise control. And Covid would have been an economic problem no matter who the pres was, so you are not being honest.
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    Nov 18, 2020, 09:14 AM
    No you're not being honest because the job of the prez is to be ready for such emergencies, not just lie about it and ignore it. That's why he got fired! All talk and bluster ain't cutting it. People need help to weather the storm! 80Million people agreed with me!
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    #31

    Nov 18, 2020, 09:20 AM
    because the job of the prez is to be ready for such emergencies,
    So you really believe that Trump should have had a plan of treatment and a vaccine available for a disease that no one had ever heard of? OK. Got it. Now the dems in Congress have done nothing in those regards, and the fact that we will have a vaccine in a few more weeks, far ahead of anyone else in the world, is just ignored by you, but ask me if I'm surprised.

    You really should be studied carefully for your pronounced case of TDS. I think it would be of great interest to psychologists.
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    Nov 18, 2020, 09:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you really believe that Trump should have had a plan of treatment and a vaccine available for a disease that no one had ever heard of? OK. Got it. Now the dems in Congress have done nothing in those regards, and the fact that we will have a vaccine in a few more weeks, far ahead of anyone else in the world, is just ignored by you, but ask me if I'm surprised.

    You really should be studied carefully for your pronounced case of TDS. I think it would be of great interest to psychologists.
    NO, that's not what I believe at all. I expected the dufus to help everybody through this crisis with FACTS, guidance, and support! He didn't do that! We will have a vaccine because our drug companies are the best in the world, and even still have a long way to go.

    I suggest you look at your own blind support for a lying cheating dufus instead of falsely criticizing my opposition.
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    Nov 18, 2020, 09:59 AM
    NO, that's not what I believe at all. I expected the dufus to help everybody through this crisis with FACTS, guidance, and support!
    Well, that's not what you said. You said, "because the job of the prez is to be ready for such emergencies." We will have a vaccine because Trump, rightly, made a big deal of fast tracking its development. I would agree that Trump downplayed the virus initially, and that was a mistake. The facts were out there for anyone who cared to see them. Many of us are not joined at the hip with a pres in the fashion that you seem to be. I don't count on the feds to take care of me. They are just a necessary nuisance as far as I'm concerned, so if the pres doesn't pat me on the back and try and make me feel better, it doesn't impact me the same way it does you.

    I am not a Trump supporter nearly as much as I am a Harris/Biden/socialism/big gov/big spender/welfare state/easy abortion/legislative SCOTUS/Antifa/violent "protests" opponent. I am much more tuned to policies than to personalities. That is, I think, the primary place you and I differ.
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    #34

    Nov 18, 2020, 05:54 PM
    so you are not for something you are against something, negative attitude explains much. If Trump had won your attitude would have been positive since you would have been for the lying, bragging, big spending, wall building, revisionist, cheating, dullard Dump
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    #35

    Nov 18, 2020, 05:56 PM
    Now you’re catching on! It’s all about policies and not personalities.
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    #36

    Nov 18, 2020, 08:21 PM
    60 days and this sham will be over and sycophants and perpetrators will be purged. Ol'Joe has a huge job ahead, and getting huger everyday.
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    #37

    Nov 18, 2020, 08:40 PM
    Ole Kamala is more like it. They'll do OK as long as they can keep spending all that non-money. When that runs out, then pity help them.
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    #38

    Nov 18, 2020, 09:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    60 days and this sham will be over and sycophants and perpetrators will be purged. Ol'Joe has a huge job ahead, and getting huger everyday.
    The "sham" has been uncovered in Georgia, votes manufactured with a machine, so it now depends on whether judges are honest enough to set aside such votes. Biden's victory is a sham and will be exposed
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    #39

    Nov 19, 2020, 04:57 AM
    Hello Clete. Let us know when you return from Loonyville. Don't forget the souvenirs.
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    #40

    Nov 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Hello Clete. Let us know when you return from Loonyville. Don't forget the souvenirs.
    I haven't been to the US in forty years tal and a visit now isn't worth the risk and lock up on my return, the only souvenirs you are giving out today I don't want

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