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    Nov 8, 2020, 12:26 PM
    Cheese with that whine or whatever you're smoking?
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    #22

    Nov 8, 2020, 01:19 PM
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    Mass migration to Georgia this month .New residents may 'move' to Georgia up until Dec 7 to vote in the January 5 runoff of both their Senate seats .
    Those migrants must be residents for at least 30 days before they can vote. Sounds complicated. Where will they live? What about their families and friends back home? Doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble.
    After stealing the Predental election the Dems are going to try to steal the Senate
    Everyone will get a different dentist? Will implants be required?
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    Nov 8, 2020, 02:44 PM
    Those migrants must be residents for at least 30 days before they can vote. Sounds complicated. Where will they live? What about their families and friends back home? Doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble.
    I guess . But I remember Senator Bobby Kennedy NY who had a hotel address and never spent a day living in NY .
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    Nov 8, 2020, 03:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Cheese with that whine or whatever you're smoking?
    make mine blue vein
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    Nov 8, 2020, 03:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I guess . But I remember Senator Bobby Kennedy NY who had a hotel address and never spent a day living in NY .
    Sorta like Trump....
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    Nov 8, 2020, 03:50 PM
    seriously ? Half of NYC was named after him before he became President . He only changed his address because NY State and city was doing a hose job on him . He did so much for NYC . Everyone here both parties loved him until he ran. Then suddenly he was the most hated man .
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    Nov 8, 2020, 04:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    seriously ? Half of NYC was named after him before he became President . He only changed his address because NY State and city was doing a hose job on him . He did so much for NYC . Everyone here both parties loved him until he ran. Then suddenly he was the most hated man .
    Not what I'd heard (am from NY). He and his dad were racists, ingratiators with local politicians, et al.
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    Nov 8, 2020, 04:21 PM
    and what developer and politician isn't in that cesspool
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    Nov 8, 2020, 05:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Half of NYC was named after him before he became President . He only changed his address because NY State and city was doing a hose job on him . He did so much for NYC . Everyone here both parties loved him until he ran. Then suddenly he was the most hated man .
    Whatever you're smokin', Tom, time to change your brand.

    NYC despised Trump - from his playboy days in the 70s to today. In 2016 and 2020 the voters overwhelmingly voted against Trump. Something like 80-20 against. An enormous spread for a local boy. Even Queens, his home borough where he grew up totally rejected Trump.
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    Nov 8, 2020, 07:27 PM
    Not what I'd heard (am from NY). He and his dad were racists, ingratiators with local politicians, et al.
    That's what you heard? Well, that certainly settles it.

    . In 2016 and 2020 the voters overwhelmingly voted against Trump. Something like 80-20 against.
    When was the last time NYC went overwhelmingly for a repub? At any rate, it wasn't quite as bleak as you suggest. "But the results, while consistent among four boroughs, nearly flip-flopped between Clinton and Republican nominee (and now president-elect) Donald Trump on Staten Island. There, Trump secured the majority with 57 percent of the vote and Clinton getting 40 percent. In Queens, the borough where Trump grew up, 20 percent of voters showed their support for the businessman."

    https://abc7ny.com/election-2016-nyc...ident/1598306/
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    Nov 8, 2020, 10:13 PM
    Getting nostalgic for the better days of yesterday JL? I can dig that. The dufus did get 70 million votes this go round, and that's something even if he did fall short. Even if you cannot join the other half of the country and most of the world in celebration I'm sure we all can relate to what falling short feels like at times like these. Not like we haven't been there before and not that long ago.

    For now it's OUR time, and enjoy it we will.
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    Nov 8, 2020, 11:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    For now it's OUR time, and enjoy it we will.
    well maybe, remember what your time did for you last time, a draconian implementation of a health care system and continuation of wars
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    Nov 9, 2020, 04:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    a draconian implementation of a health care system
    Your definition of "draconian" apparently includes health care for millions that previously were without health care. Give me draconian any day.
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    Nov 9, 2020, 05:05 AM
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    Your definition of "draconian" apparently includes health care for millions that previously were without health care. Give me draconian any day.
    I'm not against health care but about not making the community pay outlandish costs for it, you see one aspect of implementing socialism is taxation in many forms
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    Nov 9, 2020, 05:40 AM
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    I'm not against health care but about not making the community pay outlandish costs for it, you see one aspect of implementing socialism is taxation in many forms
    Your objection then is cost, NOT free universal health care. I agree with you.
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    Nov 9, 2020, 07:35 AM
    Biden, as I understand it, wants to increase taxes on the wealthy in order to promote "fairness", as evidently the top 20% of income earners paying 87% of fed income taxes while the bottom 50% only pay 3% is somehow not fair enough. Perhaps by a near miracle that will result in an additional 400 bil in tax revenues. The dem Congress, having learned nothing from their losses in the election, will propose Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, though they will call them something else due to those terms having developed some bad vibes. No one has any idea what the bill will be, but an additional 2 to 4 trillion dollars a year sounds reasonable. This will be on top of the 3 tril or so economic package designed to stimulate an economy that was already recovering nicely and needs no stimulus. So we can anticipate a completely unprecedented budget deficit next year of many trillions of dollars, which in a sane world would blow our minds, but in the brave new world of liberal dems will sound very normal. It all has "Impending Doom" written all over it, but liberal dems on this site will still rejoice since the man they absolutely loved to hate will be out of office, and that's what it was really all about.

    Good luck to all of us.

    NOT free universal health care
    There is no such thing as "free" health care. It is much more accurate to call it "Borrowed Money Healthcare".
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    Nov 9, 2020, 09:23 AM
    So I guess the rising infection rates of covid are just to be ignored since we ain't got no money? The sick probably ain't got none either.
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    #38

    Nov 9, 2020, 09:58 AM
    There was a time when not having money was considered a really good reason to not spend money.
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    Nov 9, 2020, 10:41 AM
    I'm sure hungry and cold or sick isn't one of them.
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    Nov 9, 2020, 10:51 AM
    And you are personally helping these people? Bet not.

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