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Athos · Oct 11, 2020, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No. I had responded to this:

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

My statement is absolutely true. Your reply to the effect that if they're wealthy then they called for their own taxes to be raised is silliness.

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Me, too. I think he means that liberals on this website have not suggested that their own taxes be raised to help the poor. He seems very upset about that, but I don't know in what context among all the topics and threads discussed here that that issue ever came up. I might still be misunderstanding him. As an independent politically, if it did come up, I might have missed it.

Wondergirl · Oct 11, 2020, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Me, too. I think he means that liberals on this website have not suggested that their own taxes be raised to help the poor.

Why would he think that? or even care? Plus, he has absolutely no idea if and how the "liberals" on this site help others, help the poor, help those struggling financially.

paraclete · Oct 11, 2020, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Me, too. I think he means that liberals on this website have not suggested that their own taxes be raised to help the poor. He seems very upset about that, but I don't know in what context among all the topics and threads discussed here that that issue ever came up. I might still be misunderstanding him. As an independent politically, if it did come up, I might have missed it.

In what form would that help take? free health care? higher welfare payments? free housing? low paid government jobs? free education? just throwing it out there is meaningless

Athos · Oct 11, 2020, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

In what form would that help take? free health care? higher welfare payments? free housing? low paid government jobs? free education? just throwing it out there is meaningless

I agree. Jlsinbe "threw it out there". You'd have to ask him.

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Why would he think that? or even care? Plus, he has absolutely no idea if and how the "liberals" on this site help others, help the poor, help those struggling financially.

I don't know.

jlisenbe · Oct 11, 2020, 04:09 PM

Me, too. I think he means that liberals on this website have not suggested that their own taxes be raised to help the poor.

Don't be stupid. There was no suggestion. I said it plainly. Perhaps you can "expound" on that since you said you like to "expound" so much? Hmmm?

No. I had responded to this:

How many times must I tell you, grasshopper? You must keep up.

Athos · Oct 11, 2020, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Don't be stupid. There was no suggestion. I said it plainly. Perhaps you can "expound" on that since you said you like to "expound" so much? Hmmm?

Look, A**HOLE, get with the program or get the eff out. You're trying the patience of everyone here.

paraclete · Oct 11, 2020, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Don't be stupid. There was no suggestion. I said it plainly. Perhaps you can "expound" on that since you said you like to "expound" so much? Hmmm?

the only one who likes

to "expound" so much

is you

jlisenbe · Oct 12, 2020, 04:31 AM

Look, A**HOLE, get with the program or get the eff out. You're trying the patience of everyone here.

That's what your "expounding" looks like? Well, once again, nothing intelligent to say, so you resort to the name calling. Disappointing, but totally expected whenever you get your little feelings hurt.. You don't like it when someone points out your concept of "pain-free charity". Forcing others to support your charitable inclinations isn't much of an exercise in character.

Athos · Oct 12, 2020, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

That's what your "expounding" looks like? Well, once again, nothing intelligent to say, so you resort to the name calling. Disappointing, but totally expected whenever you get your little feelings hurt.

You reap what you sow, A-Man.

You don't like it when someone points out your concept of "pain-free charity".

Another manufacture from your fevered brain.

Forcing others to support your charitable inclinations isn't much of an exercise in character.

You're the last one to talk about character. Making up stuff to suit your belief is not character.

This is just another diversion from the issue. A tactic you employ whenever necessary. Since you have nothing to say, and have failed to respond to questions, it is time to put you back in your room and close the door.

jlisenbe · Oct 12, 2020, 05:35 AM

Still waiting for you to "expound" on your idea of forcing others to do what you are absolutely not willing to do yourself, and then patting yourself on the back as though you have done something remarkable. I guess if I was in that position, I might try name calling as well. After all, you have nothing else to go with.

Another great comparison would be forcing your sister to enroll in a clinical trials study of a new drug, and then bragging about how much you support medical research.

"Pain-free charity". I like that. 100% accurate.

Athos · Oct 12, 2020, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Still waiting for you to "expound" on your idea of forcing others to do what you are absolutely not willing to do yourself, and then patting yourself on the back as though you have done something remarkable. I guess if I was in that position, I might try name calling as well. After all, you have nothing else to go with.

I have no idea what you're trying to say - nobody else here does, either.

jlisenbe · Oct 12, 2020, 05:52 AM

I have no idea what you're trying to say

You know exactly what I'm saying. You just don't like it.

Athos · Oct 12, 2020, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You know exactly what I'm saying. You just don't like it.

This is not an explanation of what you're trying to say. Do you even know?

jlisenbe · Oct 12, 2020, 05:55 AM

I understand it very well. So do you, but I guess I'll just have to wait until another day to see how you "expound" on topics.

Athos · Oct 12, 2020, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I understand it very well.

If you understand it so well, so then ask it here right now and I will answer it.

Athos · Oct 12, 2020, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by Athos

If you understand it so well, so then ask it here right now and I will answer it.

Well, he's run away.

If anyone was watching this thread, please note that I called his bluff and he backed down unable or unwilling to respond. This is the little girl coming out in him – the little girl that he usually projects onto others.

I apologize for egging him on and taking up space here where serious issues are the norm. Sometimes, dealing with a pest, it is necessary to confront the pest to show him for what he is.

I should have just ignored him which I once did – successfully. But I thought I would give him another chance. That was my mistake.

jlisenbe · Oct 12, 2020, 07:32 AM

I don't sit around all day eagerly anticipating your responses. Sometimes a few hours go by while I do other things.

You want a question? OK. Here it is again. Do you consider your morality to be superior simply because you want to legally force others to do (pay higher taxes) what you are absolutely, positively, and completely unwilling to do yourself?

This is the little girl coming out in him – the little girl that he usually projects onto others.

Please try to have some original thoughts rather than just copying mine.

talaniman · Oct 12, 2020, 09:58 AM

Nobody is forcing anyone to do a darn thing. We who believe in the American way follow the laws and we work to change them through lawful processes as set forth in our constitution. Don't like taxes? Take your arse someplace else then, or work within the system to make changes.

You have a right to whine and say stupid stuff, and ask weird misleading rhetorical question, but don't expect everybody to buy into it, as obviously I don't. I mean I could ask you the question, Do you think you are morally superior because you give inadequate charity and can quote the words of ancient man?

We vote for our causes and express our opinions and push back against what we don't like because we can. Ain't cha glad about that? Voting Wednesday morning against you wingers and your crap. Win or lose. I honestly have taken a perverse sick pleasure expressing disgust at the current regime, but hope it gets voted out.

Athos · Oct 12, 2020, 10:19 AM

(fm Athos)This is the little girl coming out in him – the little girl that he usually projects onto others.

(reply fm Jl)Please try to have some original thoughts rather than just copying mine

It's too much fun giving you a taste of your own medicine. LOL.

-from Jilsenbe ----- Here it is again (the Question)Do you consider your morality to be superior simply because you want to legally force others to do (pay higher taxes) what you are absolutely, positively, and completely unwilling to do yourself?

In law, that's called a compound question and assumes what is not in evidence. However, here's a breakdown as my answer:

NO, I do NOT consider myself morally superior for the reason you state. I do NOT want to legally force others to pay higher taxes. I am absolutely, positively, and completely WILLING to pay higher taxes.

Satisfied?

talaniman · Oct 12, 2020, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Athos

It's too much fun giving you a taste of your own medicine. LOL.

In law, that's called a compound question and assumes what is not in evidence. However, here's a breakdown as my answer:

NO, I do NOT consider myself morally superior for the reason you state. I do NOT want to legally force others to pay higher taxes. I am absolutely, positively, and completely WILLING to pay higher taxes.

Satisfied?

Yeah what he said. GREAT response. I would add give hard working poor people a raise, but then I would have to listen to all the excuses why they can't have one. Rich people pay all the taxes, but poor people do all the work.