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    #61

    Oct 23, 2020, 09:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    But should she be allowed to simply because she no longer wants a baby?
    There is a reason she no longer wants a baby and I want to know what it is. Carrying a fetus for nine months is not an easy feat, not like saying no to dessert but a bit like not going on a vacation you've been planning for a year. What's going on in her head?
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    #62

    Oct 23, 2020, 10:05 AM
    Regardless, should she be allowed to simply because she no longer wants a child?
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    #63

    Oct 23, 2020, 10:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Regardless, should she be allowed to simply because she no longer wants a child?
    Is she going to cause an abortion no matter what anyone says?

    How would you not "allow" her?
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    #64

    Oct 23, 2020, 10:21 AM
    So you are in favor of allowing it. Wow is all I can say to that.
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    #65

    Oct 23, 2020, 10:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You want us to say we're all for abortion, no matter the reason.
    Looks like you were dead on correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you are in favor of allowing it. Wow is all I can say to that.
    Asking questions to clarify your question is not an admission though everybody knows that was your intention.
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    #66

    Oct 23, 2020, 10:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you are in favor of allowing it. Wow is all I can say to that.
    How did you get that out of what I said???
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    #67

    Oct 23, 2020, 12:53 PM
    Well, that's kind of what happens when you camp out on the middle ground. People just have to guess at what on earth you're trying to say.

    You want us to say we're all for abortion, no matter the reason.
    Actually, I'm just trying to get you to say what your position is on abortion.
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    #68

    Oct 23, 2020, 01:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, that's kind of what happens when you camp out on the middle ground. People just have to guess at what on earth you're trying to say.
    What's wrong with the middle ground?

    Actually, I'm just trying to get you to say what your position is on abortion.
    No you're not you're being an abusive nut.
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    #69

    Oct 23, 2020, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you are in favor of allowing it. Wow is all I can say to that.
    You would have to be with her 24/7 so she doesn't abort her fetus. "Allowing" is not even a word to be used in this situation. We allow our child to have a second helping of ice cream. We allow the dog to splash around in the creek. We allow our MIL to ... take over.
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    #70

    Oct 23, 2020, 01:36 PM
    Forget it. You're just too scared to make a decision, I guess.
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    #71

    Oct 23, 2020, 01:42 PM
    Feel free to comeback when you get it.
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    #72

    Oct 23, 2020, 01:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Forget it. You're just too scared to make a decision, I guess.
    Yeah, scared 'cause you're sooooo intimidating.[/sarcasm]
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    #73

    Oct 23, 2020, 01:54 PM
    Nah. It's not me, it's you. You're smart enough to know where this is heading. If you approve of a nine month abortion, then you're a cold hearted person. If you don't think it should be allowed by law, then you're on the side of those you claim to disagree with, which would be those who, you say, advocate for controlling a woman's body. So realizing that, you try to be evasive and camp in the middle ground, also know as "no man's land". Honestly, I think you know what's right, but your liberal orthodoxy won't allow you to say it.

    I told you that when I first asked the question. "As to the whole "pro-choice" argument which appeals to the supposed right of a pregnant woman to control her own body, I can dispose of that with one simple question which I already know none of you will care to answer. Should a woman be able to have an abortion in her ninth month of pregnancy because she changed her mind and decided she did not want to have a child? And please don't come up with the evasive garbage. Do you think she should be allowed to do that?"

    The question is intended to reveal the truth. Not answering it is a way to conceal the truth.
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    #74

    Oct 23, 2020, 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    you try to be evasive and camp in the middle ground, also know as "no man's land". Honestly, I think you know what's right, but your liberal orthodoxy won't allow you to say it.
    The real problem is that your question is poorly thought out. I would think someone with your education would have asked a much more thought-provoking question than one a playground bully would have asked.

    Have you ever heard of a woman who changed her mind during the ninth month of her pregnancy? If so, what was her reason? That certainly piques my curiosity!
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    #75

    Oct 23, 2020, 02:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The real problem is that your question is poorly thought out. I would think someone with your education would have asked a much more thought-provoking question than one a playground bully would have asked.
    "...a playground bully..."! You sure got a way with words, WG.
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    #76

    Oct 23, 2020, 02:52 PM
    The real problem is that your question is poorly thought out. I would think someone with your education would have asked a much more thought-provoking question than one a playground bully would have asked.
    I know. It's always someone else's fault with you guys. It just has to be a poor question that you wouldn't answer? Well, I told you from the word go that you wouldn't do it. I knew it from the beginning. You just view it as too philosophically dangerous for you. It's always easier to simply not take a position and so have nothing to defend.
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    #77

    Oct 23, 2020, 02:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I know. It's always someone else's fault with you guys. It just has to be a poor question that you wouldn't answer? Well, I told you from the word go that you wouldn't do it. I knew it from the beginning. You just view it as too philosophically dangerous for you. It's always easier to simply not take a position and so have nothing to defend.
    Ask an honest question, please.
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    #78

    Oct 23, 2020, 03:51 PM
    There's no point in it. You've already demonstrated you won't answer one.
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    #79

    Oct 23, 2020, 04:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There's no point in it. You've already demonstrated you won't answer one.
    I don't answer questions that aren't well thought out, and I prefer it when the questioner is honestly interested in my answer as a discussion starting point instead of doing a "ha! gotcha!"
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    #80

    Oct 23, 2020, 04:35 PM
    You behaved as I predicted.

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