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    Aug 23, 2020, 04:38 PM
    What's on the agenda for this week's RNC?
    Speakers? Performers of song or dance? Animal acts? Monster truck rallies? Pole-dancing contests? I can't wait for the action to begin on Monday evening!
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    Aug 23, 2020, 06:18 PM
    you mean they have finally found the tent, TRUMP the biggest circus in town, EVER!
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:44 AM
    His agenda is the convention .
    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/t...ghting-for-you

    Other things . The Dems made their convention a Trump hate fest ....both him and hatred for those who support him . Trump has to turn that and make the convention about Quid and his half century of no accomplishments . Oh yeah except the Federal sentencing that the Dems all love so much. Quid's corruption should be mentioned . They could mention that in 50 years Quid NEVER led on anything . The Dem party evolved and he went along for the ride. He went from essentially a Dixiecrat to a radical lefty never once leading his party in that direction. We know if elected he will never lead. He has adopted the Elizabeth Warren /Bolshevik Bernie / All Out Crazy agenda . One such example is this little ditty in his plagiarized acceptance speech He said he wants to "put an end to the era of shareholder capitalism — the idea [that] the only responsibility a corporation has is to its shareholders."
    It is false to say that today corporations are only accountable to share holders. But let's say that was true . Just by doing that corporations do a tremendous amount of public good. All you need to do is look at the effort by companies to be the 1st on the market with a covid vaccine. They are doing that because it would be financially advantageous to be the first . But in doing all the r&d ,they will have a safe vaccine on the market much faster than if we lived in a command economy . As has been shown many times recently ,consumers vote their confidence in a company with their dollars . That is why so many corporations have made conscious efforts to support social causes . Finally ,shareholder capitalism is a myth itself. Shareholders do not own corporations . Shareholders are free to go along with the ride or sell. But corporations are autonomous legal entities . The directors or the corporate owners makes the call. Quid is buying into the concept of 'stakeholder capitalism ' (he is following the politics of Bolshevik Bernie and 1/1024 Elizabeth Warren to name a couple of proponents. )It means that corporations are also responsible to the larger community .Most corporations have already brought into the notion that they are accountable to more than just the shareholders .What the Dems are really saying is that they would mandate behavior through top down regulatory control over corporate decisions . They would enforce it by setting mandates on how and who sits on corporate boards . To see where this is heading see the Warren's 'Accountable Capitalism Act' . "S. 3348 is a proposed federal bill introduced by Senator Elizabeth Warren in August 2018. It would require that employees elect 40% of a board of directors of any corporation with over $1 billion in tax receipts, and that 75% of shareholders and directors must approve any political spending. Corporations with revenue over $1 billion would be required to obtain a federal corporate charter. The Act contains a "constituency statute" that would give directors a duty of "creating a general public benefit" with regard to a corporation's stakeholders, including shareholders, employees, and the environment, and the interests of the enterprise in the long-term. "The government by necessity would be the final arbiter of the conflicting interests that the corporation needs to satisfy .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountable_Capitalism_Act#:~:text=3348%20is%20a%2 0proposed%20federal,must%20approve%20any%20politic al%20spending.


    Trump would do well to not do what the Dems did in their convention . Ie il Duce has a disastrous record regarding C-19 . Yet he claimed credit for success .Not only that he disparaged the successes of other states or nations in combating the virus, especially on the basis of deaths per million residents.

    Bubba should never mention the 'Oval Office ' because it brings up images of stained dresses ,and in the Me-too era that aint cool. So what did he do ? He lectures Trump on the proper use of the Oval Office .

    The emperor should never speak of respect for the Constitution . He abused the it from his 1st day in office . We now know he was the mastermind in the attempted coup against Trump. One of his underlings pled guilty almost the same time that the emperor made his speech .You know ,the underling who proclaimed 'viva le resistance '! But his abuse of FISA court for the purpose of domestic spying began long before Flynn and Trump were targets .

    The blond haired blue eyed native American should never in fact bring up native American issues . So it turns out that she served on the Democratic Convention Native American Caucus Committee . Clearly her pedigree serves as legitimacy .

    All the RNC needs to do is point out what is well known .
    The Dems have an agenda almost no one in America wants .
    The Dems platform is the furthest socialist left that has ever been proposed by a major party . The Dems hate law enforcement . Not ONE of their speakers called out the wanton looting ,arson ,violence of the "peaceful protests" going on in Democrat controlled cities .
    The Dems hate America and say it is historically and fundamentally flawed ;and should be dismantled as we know it . The Republicans will celebrate America and it's exceptional greatness.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 06:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    His agenda is the convention .


    All the RNC needs to do is point out what is well known .
    .
    You don't mean they are going to regale us with trump's list of failures, his list of successes being short
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    Aug 24, 2020, 08:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    You don't mean they are going to regale us with trump's list of failures, his list of successes being short
    Nope, all of his kids (from three different wives, oops, not Barron so TWO wives) are going to tell us what a great dad he is -- fun family vacations to Yo-semite Park, family outings to Thigh restaurants and ESPECIALLY to his favorite, McDonald's, plus all the enjoyment they got walking the adorable and much-loved family dogs.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 10:49 AM
    ok Clete for you I will start in foreign policy:
    Trump mostly kept the United States out of an unwinnable war in Syria, fired John Bolton before he could start a war in Iran over the downing of a drone . I was a critic and thought he should take a stronger stand. But in retrospect he has flexed against Iran and has properly punished them with his sanctions and his recent UN action to call for the continuation of UN sanctions .

    He moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem;and has brokered a peace deal between the UAE and Israel .

    The NORKS have not had a nuke test since early in his administration ,

    Despite the silly nonsense that the left tries to perpetrate that he is a puppet of Putin; His sanctions on Russia are tougher than the emperor's . He gave the Poles defensive weapons against the Russian threat . He has gotten NATO to forward deploy to Eastern Europe and to get NATO troops the defend the Baltic States from possible Russian aggression.

    He has strengthened ties with South America while still putting the squeeze on rogue nations like Venezuela .

    He renegotiated NAFTA and what emerged is a vast improvement .

    He is getting NATO to finally pony up their fair share of the funding .

    We finally have a President who has the cahones to treat China as the enemy of the world and the US that they are .

    Yeah I get it . He is unpopular . So what ? He doesn't have to be loved to be effective ,
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    Aug 24, 2020, 12:12 PM
    'Nuff said really....
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    Who's Tiffany anyways ??
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    Aug 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
    My question is where was Hunter Biden Waldo ? They keep him locked away deeper in the dungeon than Quid Pro Joe himself . The Biden family isn't in the loop in any government function . They prefer to work behind the scene cashing in on Quid's name and influence . They as much a dynasty as Trump's or Kim's .
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    Aug 24, 2020, 02:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    My question is where was Hunter Biden Waldo ? They keep him locked away deeper in the dungeon than Quid Pro Joe himself . The Biden family isn't in the loop in any government function . They prefer to work behind the scene cashing in on Quid's name and influence . They as much a dynasty as Trump's or Kim's .
    I think that's actually true of most families involved in the political scene, generally, however they keep lower profiles rather than blatantly exploiting the family nepotism.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    My question is where was Hunter Biden Waldo ?
    Probably was playing poker with Barron.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 03:32 PM
    By all means start Tom but he loves the limelight too much and his policies on CV19 have seen the US be the most infected country far ahead of any third world country and he hasn't brought China to account on that. He promised to build a wall, he promised to repeal Obamacare in both cases he has tinkered around the edges
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    Aug 24, 2020, 04:27 PM
    The wall is well on it's way to being built besides all the road blocks the Dems have put up .It is going up at a rate of apx 10 miles a week . You tell me .What do you prefer ; border control or open borders . Trump is for border control . The Dems were mum on it during their convention. But we all know they want open uncontrolled borders .

    How should he hold China responsible ? He calls them out on it constantly ;but are you advocating getting into an all out war with a nation of a billion people that are armed with nukes ? The real issue is that the Dems don't even recognized China as a threat ,let alone an enemy . Quid brought his son there on Air Force 2 to make a large fortune for himself . So who's interest do you think Quid will represent ?

    Obamacare was legislative action legitimized by SCOTUS . Trump has done what he can to dismantle it but ultimately either SCOTUS will have to approved of the dismantle ;or a filibuster proof majority of Repubs who want it dismantled will have to be voted in .In 2017, the Republican Congress cut the tax penalty for those who lacked insurance to zero as part of the tax overhaul. Without the mandate ,Obamacare will die eventually . SCOTUS is scheduled to hear Trump's court challenge to Obamacare November 10 ....after the election.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The wall is well on it's way to being built
    Trump has built three (3) miles of wall. The other mileage worked has been repair or replacement of dilapidated sections. His cronies raising money to build the wall have all been indicted for fraud and are headed to jail. You should know by now that Trump is a COMPLETE fraud.

    The rest of your post is like Trump's wall - not much there.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    SCOTUS is scheduled to hear Trump's court challenge to Obamacare November 10 ....after the election.
    The best birthday gift I will get on November 10 is Trump doing a well-earned perp walk.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:42 PM
    216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017 Much of that replaced outdates and dilapidated wall. When you take down a rusty fence and replace it with new construction steel wall 30 feet tall embedded in concrete, it is a new wall . The press pretends that does not count . But it does. An additional 339 miles is under construction, and 183 miles in pre-construction. More could've been done .But the President is constantly chasing down funding from the open border crowd that controls Congress.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017 Much of that replaced outdates and dilapidated wall. When you take down a rusty fence and replace it with new construction steel wall 30 feet tall embedded in concrete, it is a new wall . The press pretends that does not count . But it does. An additional 339 miles is under construction, and 183 miles in pre-construction. More could've been done .But the President is constantly chasing down funding from the open border crowd that controls Congress.
    And taking over cemeteries and protected lands and even private property. Plus, tRump is getting money from private citizens to build the wall that he said Mexico was to pay for.

    "Only one day after he was indicted on conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering charges, a video has surfaced showing former Trump campaign manager Steve Bannon joking with one of his alleged co-conspirators about stealing “all that money from ‘We Build The Wall,’” a crowdfunding campaign that raised more than $25 million with the promise to erect a barrier on the southern border."
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-wall-1048305/
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017

    Wrong - replaced/repaired wall is NOT new wall. Read my lips. It is replaced/repaired wall.

    As WG noted, in any case, the wall was to be paid for by Mexico. Remember that? As she further noted, Bannon and his cronies were stealing millions from a wall fund, they got caught, and are headed to long prison terms.

    Stop defending a weak position, tomder.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 05:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    216 miles of NEW wall has been built since Jan 2017 Much of that replaced outdates and dilapidated wall. When you take down a rusty fence and replace it with new construction steel wall 30 feet tall embedded in concrete, it is a new wall . The press pretends that does not count . But it does. An additional 339 miles is under construction, and 183 miles in pre-construction. More could've been done .But the President is constantly chasing down funding from the open border crowd that controls Congress.
    I seem to recall part of this new wall fell down recently so I guess that section doesn't count. Tom, I'm not against your wall, effective border control is essential for any nation and covid seems to have solved the problem anyway, for the time being, at least. What is paradoxical is you have NAFTA, which is essentially an open border with Mexico, and yet you need a wall. Seems something might have been missing in that agreement, so by the end of his term Trump might have built 500 miles of wall, at this rate he would need four terms to complete it.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 06:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He renegotiated NAFTA and what emerged is a vast improvement .
    Speaking of NAFTA, this is one of the funniest "accomplishments" you mentioned. All he did was change the name to USMCA with hardly anything else changed.
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    Aug 24, 2020, 08:45 PM
    I am grateful for my Netflix subscription, as I await the return of the Walking Dead, and the new Star Trek series on All Access. Saves me from the depression of the dufus reality, and conservative capitalist spin and sycophants...on primetime display this week. Obviously Tomder, not all Americans, or not even all repubs are on board for more dufus and family BS!

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