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    Jul 12, 2020, 04:28 AM
    Stone's commutation after being convicted was Barr's worst nightmare since it confirms the rigged system and opens the door for even closer scrutiny in which the media will surely oblige, beginning with a book tour of the dufus niece that inspired the reporting of dufus fraud years ago.
    hmmmm riggest system ..
    Bubba pardoned his brother who was convicted of felony cocaine distribution
    Bubba pardoned a key witness in the Whitewater scandal for which he and Evita were under investigation. And three others convicted in independent counsel Ken Starr’s probe. And Marc Rich, in what was a straight up political payoff. And his CIA director ;his HUD secretary, and eight people convicted in an investigation of his Agriculture Department.

    The emperor pardoned Oscar Lopez Rivera ;a convicted terrorist and unrepentant leader of FALN. He commuted the sentence of a U.S. soldier who passed top-secret information to WikiLeaks.He pardoned his former Joint Chiefs of Staff vice chairman, who’d been convicted of making false statements about a leak of classified information to the New York Times.

    That doesn't include all the Obama era apparatchiks who avoided criminal indictment by the emperor's cover ups and obstructions of justice . These include the Fast and Furious investigation for which his Attorney General was held in contempt of congress ;ignoring his CIA director’s spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and turning a blind eye to the abuses of power of his IRS.
    Oh yeah and he orchestrated the whole Russia Gate abuse of power that Durham is currently investigating . Durham has met with a Grand Jury so things are moving on that front albeit at a snail's pace .

    Stone's commutation is not a pardon although a pardon is justified . He is being kept out of prison . There are hundreds of hardened criminals out on the streets of NYC ;released because of C-19 concerns . So it should not bother you at all that Stone , a non-violent person charged with criminal obstruction of a bogus and ridiculously over prosecuted investigation had his sentence commuted .

    Barr should be po'ed about it . The time to commute was after conviction. Trump blew it by letting it linger into the sentencing phase where Barr unnecessarily got the Justice Dept involved to propose a more lenient sentence the the unreasonable sentence that he was given. That was an unforced error by Trump and Barr got egg on his face by intervening .If Trump made his intentions clear then Barr would've been spared the embarrassment .

    One thing Trump got right was commute instead of pardon. Now Stone can go through the appeal process and get this unjust charge against him reversed . The man is a nut job . No doubt about that . But he is not a criminal .Stone was alleged to have lied to Congress about discussing WikiLeaks; that’s why he was charged only with process crimes. No one in Mueller's team came close to proving that Trump or anyone in his team colluded with the Russians and WikiLeaks to hack the DNC emails .
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    Jul 12, 2020, 08:02 AM
    The right has a field day with anything Clinton(s) and Obama do, but hate it when this dufus gets blasted, so hey it's our turn to beech, throw shade, holler scream and protest repubs rule. It's the American way especially in an election year, or any other day of the week.

    Stone is and will always be a convicted FELON. Mueller made it so, and explained very clearly why he didn't pursue the dufus for collusion, it could take years. Still might as I doubt that's the last you hear of collusion. I guess that's a win for the dufus, or more accurately a reprieve from prosecution at least in regard to that.

    There are still many more potential future charges for "individual 1", whether he gets re elected or not. He's good at buying time for sure, but his days in court aren't over by a longshot.
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    Jul 12, 2020, 09:17 AM
    Stone should have been granted a new trial, given the evidence of a corrupt juror. But Judge Amy Berman Jackson is as biased a judge as they come.
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    Jul 12, 2020, 09:27 AM
    The right has a field day with anything Clinton(s) and Obama do, but hate it when this dufus gets blasted
    for some perspecive ...
    Susan Rosenberg, terrorist, drove the getaway car in the Brinks robbery that resulted in the murder of 2 cops and a guard .She was caught with bomb making materials at the time of her arrest . Her sentence was commuted by Bubba .

    Stone lied to Congress .
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    Jul 12, 2020, 09:27 AM
    Sour grapes from the dufus side! Let them tell it, the dufus and whomever he deems is above the law.

    Stone got a stay out of jail free card, Rosenberg served 16 years.
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    Jul 12, 2020, 01:51 PM
    On a previous topic --- Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer, revealed on Thursday the tax returns claimed by Trump to be under audit have had the audit completed. The WH press spokeman said the audit was still in progress.
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    Jul 12, 2020, 04:17 PM
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    Jul 12, 2020, 04:27 PM
    Trump's commutation of Stone was a reward for Stone's lying about Trump's corruption. Trump said he would do it and Stone listened.
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    Jul 13, 2020, 04:35 AM
    The dufus has been saying all along he will reward those that keeps their mouth shut about his antics, and Stone did to the extent of lying, of which he was rightfully convicted of. Even Barr called it a righteous prosecution, Mueller called it obstruction by the dufus, even as Stone got a reduced sentence, thanks to Barr. That just wasn't good enough for the dufus.

    Blatant corrupt cronyism.

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