[Athos]

(I deleted the image - Snopes determined the picture was photoshopped)



Trump has a health issue everyone gets if they’re lucky, but it’s also invariably fatal: old age. JFK never had that problem, but it is true that both JFK and DJT tried to cover up their health issues. But the sources of their health issue didn’t overlap at all, so neither did the remedies.

In Trump’s case, he’s tried to avoid looking his age. He dyes his hair and goes to elaborate lengths to conceal his bald spot. He wears Soviet-era oversized suits and absurdly long ties to conceal his paunch. He wears oversized pads in the shoulders of those suits to conceal his pear-shaped body.

He wears lifts in his shoes to make him look more imposing, even though he’s at least 6 feet tall without “assistance.” He sprays on tan to look younger, though the white rings around his eyes make him look like an orange raccoon.

Overall the attempt is to make him look like a fit, virile ex-linebacker in his late 40s instead of an obese old man.
Sad.

Yet it works on at least 40% of the voters.

(anon)

[talaniman]

No wonder he is up all night tweeting! He has to take off yesterdays make up, and apply a fresh coat everyday.

[tomder55]

there was another President who is revered by the left and has a huge monument park in the national mall who his his physical issues with a big hat tip to the compliant press.
There is even another one who's wife had to run the country at the end of his term because he hid from the nation the fact that he had multiple strokes .

[Athos]

there was another President who is revered by the left and has a huge monument park in the national mall who his his physical issues with a big hat tip to the compliant press.
There is even another one who's wife had to run the country at the end of his term because he hid from the nation the fact that he had multiple strokes .

Your point?

[tomder55]

What's your point ? That Trump has a vanity problem ? So what ? JFK was a walking wreck and he hid it and tried to portray himself as a man of vigor (“vigah,”). That was pure vanity on his part portraying a fiction .

Had the nation known his health problems it is likely he would not have become President .He had Addison’s disease for which he was regularly administered steroids .He suffered from ulcers and colitis. He had chronic back issues .Many of the treatments doctors gave Kennedy did far more harm than good. Kennedy was taking an extraordinary variety of medications: steroids ,painkillers for his back; anti-spasmodics for colitis; antibiotics for urinary-tract infections; antihistamines for allergies; and, on at least one occasion, an anti-psychotic. We were never told even though today ,many of those treatments would make us question his ability to competently do his job.

He was under the care of an allergist, an endocrinologist, a gastroenterologist, an orthopedist, and a urologist, along with that of Janet Travell ,his personal physician , Admiral George Burkley, and Max Jacobson,( called “Dr. Feelgood” by his patients ) was an emigre doctor from Germany who made a reputation by treating celebrities with “pep pills".

Ironically it was indeed his poor health that killed him . On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was wearing a corset like back brace as he rode through Dallas. Oswald’s first bullet struck him in the back of the neck. The back brace, held him erect The second, fatal shot to the head might not have found its mark if he were not being held up by the brace.

[talaniman]

We should be grateful the dufus doesn't hide any of his short comings and seems to take pride in displaying them for all to see. The dufus lies like a rug.

[Athos]

What's your point ? That Trump has ................................. by treating celebrities with “pep pills".

I still don't get your point.

Ironically it was indeed his poor health that killed him . On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was wearing a corset like back brace as he rode through Dallas. Oswald’s first bullet struck him in the back of the neck. The back brace, held him erect The second, fatal shot to the head might not have found its mark if he were not being held up by the brace.

From the dufus spray-painting his face to orange to the Kennedy assassination - wow, talk about a stretch!

[talaniman]

Tom overthinks things sometimes Athos. Most conservatives do.

[paraclete]

Tom overthinks things sometimes Athos. Most conservatives do.

While liberals dont think at all they just feel

[talaniman]

While liberals dont think at all they just feel

Bad for conservatives!

[paraclete]

Not at all we are not touchy feely we can see disadvantage and not skurm and want to solve it

[talaniman]

What have you solved so far? Just curious.

[paraclete]

What have you solved so far? Just curious.

We do things a bit at a time so everyone is entitled to support, health care. Not saying we solved it just we are working on it without the hooha

[talaniman]

Americans can be rather rowdy in their opinions, and we have a lot of people and a lot of opinions. We're still arguing over entitlements and support and health care though, with much hooha.

[paraclete]

Americans can be rather rowdy in their opinions, and we have a lot of people and a lot of opinions. We're still arguing over entitlements and support and health care though, with much hooha.

What it seems is you are much talk and little action but these are problems you cannot talk your way out of

[talaniman]

The Civil War has been over for a long time but the war of ideas rages on.

[tomder55]

we have been in the prelude to a civil war for some time . It starts long before the shooting starts . The church of woke has the upper hand at the moment because the rest of the people are afraid to speak out lest they offend .

If you are looking for a comparison to the American Civil war we are at this point currently


https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374154776


https://www.westholmepublishing.com/...stephen-puleo/

This is a lithograph depicting U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks' attack on Sen. Charles Sumner in the U.S. Senate on May 22, 1856. We are not in civil war yet . The constitution hangs together by a tattered thread . But constitutional order still exists . A civil war happens when constitutional order no longer exists and the competing sides claim they have the legitimacy to form a new constitution. There becomes no more room for compromise . Whatever new order emerges .both sides must submit to willingly or unwillingly . Force determines the winner .As long as things can be resolved within the framework of the old constitution ie elections ,then it is not yet a civil war. The election of 1860 told the South that their way of life was going to be taken away. The North for their part would not accept the nationalization of slavery that would've been the defacto reality that came from the Dred Scott Decision (another great ruling by the putz's in SCOTUS) .

Since 1992 the two party system has been on a fast tract to destruction . Gone are the days of compromise . With each succeeding administration, the political climate has grown more rancorous and divided. There is no relationship between parties now .The only thing they agree on is that they are sworn enemies and the agenda of each is to beat the other's agenda.

That was the America in the1850s . Dredd Scott (thanks again to SCOTUS )nullified the Missouri Compromise . Kansas -Nebraska Act went into law which effectively guaranteed the territories introduction into the Union as free or slave states would be decided at the point of the sword. It should've been no surprise that Bloody Kansas would become national .

[paraclete]

Just because you had a civil war in the nineteenth century doesn't mean you have to have one in the twenty-first unless of course you are unwilling to modify your eighteenth century thinking

[tomder55]

Just because you had a civil war in the nineteenth century doesn't mean you have to have one in the twenty-first unless of course you are unwilling to modify your eighteenth century thinking

What is so great about 20th and 21st century thinking ? Millions dead by totalitarians and millions more by progressive thinking that doesn t value human life .Now we have Maoist and Trotskyites marauding in the streets trying like Taliban and ISIS to destroy our history and their intellectual movement to destroy independent thought . You can have it .

[talaniman]

What's so great about conservative thinking that follows the rich guys superiority in economic and social justice and assigns the values that keep them rich and superior? That centuries old thinking has always kept power and wealth in their own hands that they dole out as they please.