[paraclete]

It's a lawful established process Clete. Like you have in your land. The Russian election is a different matter since Vlad is running for two terms instead of one at a time.

A lawfully established process, yes, but somewhat unlike that which we have in our land. We don't spend years in the election process and we get more bang for our buck. Russia has always had a czar, that is unlikely to change any time soon

[tomder55]

looking for the biggest threat ? Well Clete they reside on your side of the world

The rural/urban argument no longer applies,

more so than ever


for Clete . You need us and you know it .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gg8...m7z1yYjtbU_p38

[paraclete]

looking for the biggest threat ? Well Clete they reside on your side of the world


more so than ever


for Clete . You need us and you know it .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gg8...m7z1yYjtbU_p38

Tal the question isn't who needs who, yes, they are on my side of the world but in your hemisphere, the northern hemisphere. Everything south of the equator is peaceful and we like it that way. China has been very belligerent towards us lately, probably because they don't want a Trump tantrum and more damage to their economy and so we offer a target, since we dared to suggest they hadn't been totally open about CV19, however they are very shortsighted because trade restrictions cut both ways. As to HK, neither you nor we will go to war regarding that unfortunate place

[tomder55]

I'm willing to take right now 100,000 and more of their brainiac refugees right now . I so admire their people of Taiwan and their struggle for true liberty as opposed to the spoiled panty waist thugs who have taken to the American streets .

[talaniman]

Hey Clete, you quoted Tom, not me. The relationship between two leaders is best conducted between them without the public posturing and politics to feed the base. Nobody likes the dufus ways of chaos and certainly not the outcome of uncertainty he has so far.

I'm willing to take right now 100,000 and more of their brainiac refugees right now . I so admire their people of Taiwan and their struggle for true liberty as opposed to the spoiled panty waist thugs who have taken to the American streets .

Bet you would. Those Brainiac's smart and admirable though they be probably should fight for their freedom like all us freedom loving people have, and taking to the streets to keep fighting for that freedom.

[paraclete]

Yes, we will take them too, add to our considerable chinese population and make ourselves even more unpopular. However, we won't go to war over it, HK is a lost cause. As to me mistaking you for Tom, just seemed a continuation of our conversation and your ability to find graphics

[talaniman]

If we can kick Russia out of the G8 over Crimea, why give China a free pass over Taiwan? If you can have a trade was over trade imbalance, why not over Taiwan? If you can tear up treaties on a whim against everybody, why not for Taiwan? Too many options available Clete, besides capitulation or a war, however you define it.

[paraclete]

If we can kick Russia out of the G8 over Crimea, why give China a free pass over Taiwan? If you can have a trade was over trade imbalance, why not over Taiwan? If you can tear up treaties on a whim against everybody, why not for Taiwan? Too many options available Clete, besides capitulation or a war, however you define it.

Kicking Russia out cost you nothing, tokenism. But will you kick China out over HK or Taiwan, much more to lose there

[talaniman]

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, whatever the global disruptions. Screw the capitalists who divide the world for personal profits.

[tomder55]

my goal is for the US to decouple from China . They are not economic competitors ,they are economic enemies . They are not geopolitical competitors . They are geopolitical enemies . They have shown over and over again that theirs is a zero sum game . https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/asia/...cli/index.html

[talaniman]

I think they're both Tom, and as ruthless as we have been and continue to be.

[tomder55]

as ruthless as we have been and continue to be.

silly and false moral equivalency the liberal disease . Right now as the exterminate the Uyghur they are harvesting their body parts for sale. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/202...n-prison-china

Two of their population ,Uyghur and Falan Gong are subject to having organs removed from their body so the Chinese can put them on the market .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9117911.html

[talaniman]

Yeah that's pretty gruesome, inhuman, and downright nasty. Not widely known either.

[paraclete]

yes godless communists are capable of anything

[talaniman]

Godless, cruel, and inhuman as they may be, they are one of the biggest dogs in the world. We have no choice but to deal with them in some form or fashion. Ever try to ignore a big mean dog in the neighbor hood who has no leash and will bite you?

[paraclete]

You have to know dogs to deal with them, show fear and they will bite

[talaniman]

Two big mean dogs in the same yard usually ends in a fight.

[tomder55]

I think Slim Pickins said something like that in 'Dr Strangelove '

[talaniman]

Great movie, but is the yard big enough for 3 big mean dogs? Wonder whose lunch?

[paraclete]

calling your country a dog, really tal, you get it right sometines