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    Jul 10, 2020, 07:07 PM
    The College of Hard Knocks!
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    #62

    Jul 11, 2020, 05:47 AM
    well it didn't take
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    #63

    Jul 11, 2020, 06:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    well it didn't take
    This talk about Civil War is just a lot of noise from the pro-Trump crowd. It's meant to deflect from the basic issue of Trump the greatest crook in American elective history.
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    Jul 11, 2020, 09:53 AM
    The basic issue is will America keep following the lying cheating dufus down the road of division, hate and chaos.
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    Jul 11, 2020, 03:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The basic issue is will America keep following the lying cheating dufus down the road of division, hate and chaos.
    What makes you think he is leading?
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    Jul 11, 2020, 03:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    What makes you think he is leading?
    His core group is crumbling at the edges as his incompetent murderous lack of leadership in the health crisis is becoming more and more obvious.
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    Jul 11, 2020, 06:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    His core group is crumbling at the edges as his incompetent murderous lack of leadership in the health crisis is becoming more and more obvious.
    Even the dufus doesn't think he's leading, but he'll never admit it. Easier to lie, cheat, and steal his way out of blame like he always has done. Or try!
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    Jul 11, 2020, 08:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Even the dufus doesn't think he's leading, but he'll never admit it. Easier to lie, cheat, and steal his way out of blame like he always has done. Or try!
    but you said people are following him how then do you say he is not leading, i think you are confused by your own rhetoric
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    Jul 12, 2020, 04:57 AM
    He has a minority following of a shrinking hardcore base, and growing opposition, thanks to his horrendous response to this economy destroying virus and other antics.
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    #70

    Jul 12, 2020, 05:42 PM
    I hear one of your warships is on fire, will Trump blame China for that?
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    Jul 13, 2020, 04:04 AM
    Or Mexico, he probably hasn't been briefed yet.
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    #72

    Jul 13, 2020, 08:16 PM
    You mean he hasn't seen it on twitter
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    Jul 14, 2020, 03:46 AM
    He only reads his own tweets Clete.
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    #74

    Jul 14, 2020, 07:28 PM
    well once again Trump has lashed China and has not deescalated, postponing further trade talks and sanctioning Hong Kong, So the message here is don't rebel
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    Jul 16, 2020, 07:24 AM
    My take on this new foreign policy from the dufus is a bit different Clete since China is clearly changing Hong Kong from what it was under the UK, and on it's own.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53412598

    He also told reporters he had signed the Hong Kong Autonomy Act, which passed unanimously in Congress earlier this month."This law gives my administration powerful new tools to hold responsible the individuals and the entities involved in extinguishing Hong Kong's freedom," Mr Trump told the news conference.
    This is seen as a counter move to the Chinese imposed security measure.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52765838
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    Jul 16, 2020, 03:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    My take on this new foreign policy from the dufus is a bit different Clete since China is clearly changing Hong Kong from what it was under the UK, and on it's own.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53412598



    This is seen as a counter move to the Chinese imposed security measure.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52765838
    The reality is that those rebelling arn't old enough to remember british rule and the situation in HK would have been intolerable for any government. Times change and the HK handover was done in different times
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    Jul 17, 2020, 04:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    The reality is that those rebelling arn't old enough to remember british rule and the situation in HK would have been intolerable for any government. Times change and the HK handover was done in different times
    By that reasoning, the Brits can return and re-claim the USA.
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    Jul 17, 2020, 06:45 AM
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    By that reasoning, the Brits can return and re-claim the USA.
    No, that boat has sailed, they tried it once and decided it just wasn't worth the cost
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    Jul 17, 2020, 07:52 AM
    An alliance works better than a conflict. DUHHH!
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    #80

    Jul 17, 2020, 04:24 PM
    Yes and the people of HK have yet to learn that

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