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    Jun 25, 2020, 02:49 PM
    Covid-19 Super Spreader - Donald Trump
    Trump has been labeled the chief spreader of the virus as he goes from hot spot to hot spot without a mask and recommending others to also go without masks and ignore social distancing.

    This is NOT hyperbole. According to many and varied medical professionals (including those in his own WH Administration), Trump is the main individual ON THE PLANET spreading Covid-19. Trump gathers thousands in close proximity in a dangerous attempt to seek re-election. Threatening lives in the attempt fazes Trump not in the least. Other world leaders are acting according to safe guidelines.

    Biden remains off the grid holding only limited pressers and on-line videos from his basement. The American people recognize the difference and now have Biden up by double digits in the polls. November can't come too soon.

    The death count due to Trump's behavior and his original inaction is staggering. The final count may well be over 100,000 directly and indirectly attributed to Trump.
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    Jun 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
    Our covid19 response and situation is so bad the rest of the world may BAN any Americans from entering their country. We got no where to run, no where to hide! The dufus gets tested every day, but testing his fellow citizens makes him look bad, and a waste of time.

    Shoulder deep up the dufus butt ain't even safe. 8D
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    Jun 25, 2020, 05:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Our covid19 response and situation is so bad the rest of the world may BAN any Americans from entering their country. We got no where to run, no where to hide! The dufus gets tested every day, but testing his fellow citizens makes him look bad, and a waste of time.

    Shoulder deep up the dufus butt ain't even safe. 8D
    yes you should definitely be banned, we are even banning people from our own states and covid hotspots, the message is stay away. International travel is off for the foreseeable future, Europe is considering banning americans. Trump is an unhealthy individual and he is spreading the problem. The master ego is a health hazard
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    Jun 26, 2020, 04:59 AM
    Trump is an unhealthy individual and he is spreading the problem.
    He is certainly not spreading the virus personally. He'd have to have the disease in order to do that.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 05:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    He is certainly not spreading the virus personally. He'd have to have the disease in order to do that.
    he is holding mass rallies, he has no respect for his constituency. he doesn't need the rallies, he has a weak opponent for the presidency and no opponent for the nomination
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    Jun 26, 2020, 05:26 AM
    The dufus gets tested regularly (As he tells YOU that you don't need it!) so he may not be spreading the virus personally, but he sure makes it possible to be spread amongst everybody else as more of his staffers and even the secret service have been catching this virus. Even repub governors are taken aback by his campaign visits as their states are being ravaged so bad that reopening is slowing and on being paused because of corona19. You can't ignore what's happening in the south and southwest. It's no wonder the dufus is telling everyone else how bad testing is, and makes no efforts to encourage even more testing, tracing to identify and isolate the sick.

    He is working hard to take health care from poor people amid a pandemic, as mitigation programs for states, and citizens runs out of money at the end of the month. How sick do we have to get before we boot this snake oil salesman from his perch?
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    Jun 26, 2020, 06:49 AM
    not to put a finer point on it but maybe a million deaths or half the population sick. I don't understand the infection rate in the US, a society which has modern health systems, modern living standards, there has to be another reason, maybe it is genetic afterall you have large populations of the races that saw high infection rates in Europe. I observe we are seeing a second wave here among such migrant populations where the people exhibit resistance to measures implemented in other places. Or maybe the hipe has been uncovered and things were never as great as the rest of us were led to believe.

    Our society is equivalent to yours in many respects and yet our infection rates are low and death rate very low and testing doesn't uncover many cases
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    Jun 26, 2020, 07:02 AM
    LOL Clete, stop comparing us. You nor Europe or anywhere else has a dufus running around without a mask hollering it's all a hoax. If even a small part of our country follows his example, and they do, then we are in for a rocky ride as reality sets in.

    Easy to ignore the virus if you haven't been infected or affected, but people ain't got no money either so easy to be scared stiff and in a panic. That just makes reality worse and in truth we are just getting started in some places.

    Whatever the case something over here just ain't working very well. Taking health care away from 20 million people during a pandemic sound reasonable to you?
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    Jun 26, 2020, 07:30 AM
    I notice you all rather neatly left out the many dem mayors and govs who have allowed these protests to go on by the hundreds with multiple thousands of people in close proximity and no masks. They are doing far more damage than some isolated campaign events where people are being screened before being allowed to enter.

    he has a weak opponent
    Biden is a pitiful nominee, but he does lead significantly in the polls so Trump has to go to his strength.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 08:54 AM
    Must be a big reason for risking sickness other than running for re election. Besides lying cheating and being a bully what are the dufus strengths? Badmouthing people you don't like?

    Replaying his greatest hits ain't gonna work this year. This surely won't help him.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...heim-ntp-feeds

    His NEICE?
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    Jun 26, 2020, 09:35 AM
    Must be a big reason for risking sickness other than running for re election. Besides lying cheating and being a bully what are the dufus strengths? Badmouthing people you don't like?
    But you couldn't care less about the far, far greater exposure given to multiple thousands of unscreened, unmasked, protestors? Hmmm. Sure sound political to me.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    But you couldn't care less about the far, far greater exposure given to multiple thousands of unscreened, unmasked, protestors? Hmmm. Sure sound political to me.
    Look at the photos and videos of peaceful protesters. Most wear masks.

    Trump's rally goers mostly did not. Nor did he. He's worn a mask only once.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 09:49 AM
    Look at the photos and videos of peaceful protesters. Most wear masks.
    I've seen many of those photos. Many do not wear masks, social distancing is not practices, and they are certainly not screened.

    You can't wear a mask and make a speech. Besides, when he is on a platform fifty feet from a crowd, it would be pointless. Now he could hide in his basement like Biden. That would be possible.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 11:36 AM
    You call a temp check screening? I get protestors representing all kinds of health risks too, but I also get speaking out about cops murdering citizens is a risk they choose to take. You don't care about those rogue cops doing the wrong thing that results in death, nor do you care about the cops covering it up. Naw you care about criminals doing criminal stuff, MOSTLY black, in your estimation, caused by out of wedlock kids, while ignoring the other factors of poverty, poor education, and lousy low wage jobs. See I've been listening to you rant on and on!

    You ain't listening though about for now get them rogue cops and the people that aid and abet them out of my neighborhood. Do that, we can talk. Until then, forget the talking.

    UNDERSTAND? can't get any simpler than that.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 12:00 PM
    You call a temp check screening?
    Yes, and so does everyone else who has the slightest bit of knowledge about this. We can't walk into even a dentist's office without being screened by having our temp taken.

    I get protestors representing all kinds of health risks too, but I also get speaking out about cops murdering citizens is a risk they choose to take.
    And going to a Trump rally is a risk those people choose to take.

    You don't care about those rogue cops doing the wrong thing that results in death, nor do you care about the cops covering it up.
    Completely ignorant statement.

    Naw you care about criminals doing criminal stuff, MOSTLY black, in your estimation, caused by out of wedlock kids, while ignoring the other factors of poverty, poor education, and lousy low wage jobs. See I've been listening to you rant on and on!
    Never said criminals were mostly black so that's YOUR invention. Millions of people are in poverty with a poor education and a low-wage job, but they don't go out and shoot a five year old kid in a drive-by shooting.

    Education? I'm the one (NOT YOU) who brought it up here.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 01:05 PM
    Biden remains off the grid holding only limited pressers and on-line videos from his basement.
    that's because they keep him in hermetic seal in his basement unless they have a controlled event in Philly where they want him to appear or in a virtual town hall where they can control the pablum coming out of his mouth like puppet masters .

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    Jun 26, 2020, 01:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    that's because they keep him in hermetic seal in his basement unless they have a controlled event in Philly where they want him to appear or in a virtual town hall where they can control the pablum coming out of his mouth like puppet masters .
    Thanks for the incentive! Another $50 just went from my pocket into Biden's war chest.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 01:32 PM
    you have almost caught up to the Biden's annual charitable contributions.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5791846&page=1
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    Jun 26, 2020, 01:37 PM
    Fascinating remark about the 120 million Covid cases. Man's right on top of things.
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    Jun 26, 2020, 02:18 PM
    I suppose they have to check something, since there are no other ways to screen people without a test. Think of all those people who have NO temperature that walk around and could spread the virus. We have learned a lot since this started, except how to stop it, or treat it effectively.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/oth...heim-ntp-feeds

    And

    https://apnews.com/778da4a2da7e5d9d12e6105c012b8cf9

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