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    Jun 21, 2020, 12:37 PM
    Official Attendance Tally At Trump Tulsa Rally
    Trump predicted a full house for the 19,000 seat arena with 200,000 - 300,000 outside the building as an overflow crowd and where he and Pence would give a speech after the rally.

    Reality - official tally inside the arena was 6,200 (Fire Marshall). The expected 2-300,000 outside for overflow was next to zero. The Trump and Pence speeches were canceled.

    Trump raged, and blamed the disaster on the media, Obama, and on his own medical people who recommended social distancing and wearing masks. The true cost in increased sickness and death won't be seen for at least two weeks.

    According to epidemiologists, the death count due to Trump's delay in acknowledging the pandemic ("It's a hoax") is 72,000+, and that's when the total was still under 100,000.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 01:30 PM
    This morning I watched videos of the rally -- many empty seats all across the upper levels, yawning attendees rarely wearing masks and not practicing social distancing, excerpts from an hour and forty-one minutes of Trump's boasting and fabrications and meanderings.

    His return this morning:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/s...85675845828611

    Glad I'm not campaign manager, Brad Parscale!
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    Jun 21, 2020, 01:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post


    The picture of a sad, dejected failure.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 01:46 PM
    yup and Biden had no trouble practicing social distancing at his presser this week

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    Jun 21, 2020, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yup and Biden had no trouble practicing social distancing at his presser this week

    Now post a photo showing the attendees.

    The NYT reported:

    "There was no soundtrack of carefully selected, inoffensive pop music blasting in the background. No reporters fighting over power outlets and positioning. No rope line for the candidate to walk, shaking hands and snapping selfies. Oh, and hardly any voters.

    About 20 handpicked local officials, small-business owners and reporters
    sat in folding chairs, each placed within a large white circle taped on the floor of a recreation center to maintain — or at least encourage — social distancing. A few attendees whispered to each other as photographers quietly chatted. You could hear the clack of typing echoing across the room. The silence was striking."
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    Jun 21, 2020, 02:39 PM
    No doubt the dufus has the bully pulpit, and Biden doesn't. The dufus is the incumbent now that clearly could stand some new material. The old stuff fell flat.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 03:24 PM
    Is that all you've got? Tsk.

    At least Biden can walk -- and run! -- and oh, drink out of a glass while holding it with only ONE hand!
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    Jun 21, 2020, 03:35 PM
    the reason attendance was so low at his event was because he heavily promoted it on AOL chat room and My Space .
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    Jun 21, 2020, 03:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    the reason attendance was so low at his event was because he heavily promoted it on AOL chat room and My Space .
    Biden and his staff insisted on very limited attendance. Guess why. And it was a presser, not a rally.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 03:58 PM
    Attendance doesn't seem to matter at this point, as Biden leads the dufus in the polls. I doubt the dufus can afford another rally as poor as the one Saturday.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 04:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Biden and his staff insisted on very limited attendance. Guess why. And it was a presser, not a rally.
    Presser! Ah, tomder didn't mention that. That is an EXTREMELY important point.

    [Edit - 8:10pm - Tomder DID mention Biden's was a presser. My error. That fact still makes a huge difference in attendance between Trump's rally and Biden's presser]

    [Edit #2 - 8:15pm - Thank you, WG. Our posts are crossing in cyberland. In any case, you made another (?) excellent point in tomder's use of the term "event" - misleading.]
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    Jun 21, 2020, 05:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Presser! Ah, tomder didn't mention that. That is an EXTREMELY important point.
    He did mention it in post #4, and I elaborated in post #5.

    In post #9, tomder played with words to mislead us (??? No, not tomder!!!) and called it an "event".
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    Jun 21, 2020, 07:37 PM
    What's the attendance in Biden's basement?
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    Jun 21, 2020, 07:47 PM
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    What's the attendance in Biden's basement?
    The presser was held at a recreation center in the Philadelphia suburbs. Soon, probably this week, Biden and Obama will host a virtual fundraiser. Trump is so old school, so passe.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 07:51 PM
    So popular that people will actually attend his rallies. Biden cannot attract a crowd, but even if he could, it's the part about remembering where he is that causes problems.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 08:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So popular that people will actually attend his rallies. Biden cannot attract a crowd, but even if he could, it's the part about remembering where he is that causes problems.
    Now we know Trump definitely can't attract one. Or make sense when he talks. Or walk down a ramp. Or hold a small glass of water.
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    Jun 21, 2020, 08:30 PM
    Trump, the phenomenon that didn't last, taken out by a virus
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    Jun 22, 2020, 04:12 AM
    Now we know Trump definitely can't attract one. Or make sense when he talks. Or walk down a ramp. Or hold a small glass of water.
    You're fishing.
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    Jun 22, 2020, 04:25 AM
    The virus is a good excuse if he gets booted from the WH. The challenge is making a case for keeping him there. He needs more than a feeding red meat to the base I think, or dusting off the oldies for the true believers. He did prove he could drink a glass of water with one hand though, which seems to be the highlight of his rally.

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