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    Jun 27, 2020, 05:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So when the teens take over, that's good? Hmmm.
    Guess they can be creative and ruthless, mine were, and smart and maybe they don't like the dufus.

    The NJ case makes it clear that it is not rare and shows how mail in voting (which was the topic) is ripe for fraud. Court cases so far have upheld voter ID.
    4 corrupt officials conspiring isn't widespread. One instance in one state out of how many voters? You do the math. They have also struck it down when it's shown to disenfranchise groups of people, most recently right here in Texas.

    How about this interactive map and report. Personally I can deal with an ID, but recognize the challenges for others. Some of the requirements are hard or impossible to meet.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-study/517218/

    By instituting strict voter ID laws, states can alter the electorate and shift outcomes toward those on the right. Where these laws are enacted, the influence of Democrats and liberals wanes and the power of Republicans grows. Unsurprisingly, these strict ID laws are passed almost exclusively by Republican legislatures.
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    #722

    Jun 27, 2020, 05:32 PM
    4 corrupt officials conspiring isn't widespread. One instance in one state out of how many voters? You do the math. They have also struck it down when it's shown to disenfranchise groups of people, most recently right here in Texas.
    4 people but thousands of votes, and people testifying that they never received their ballots.

    As for you link, despite its description of "state lawmakers nationwide started introducing hundreds of harsh measures making it harder to vote," of the five or six states I looked at, it was pretty much photo voter ID which seems perfectly reasonable to me.

    I am open to instances of genuine voter suppression, but I don't know of very many.
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    #723

    Jun 27, 2020, 05:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I am open to instances of genuine voter suppression, but I don't know of very many.
    How about the primary in New York? In Kentucky? In Wisconsin? Oh, yes -- don't want to forget mentioning Georgia!
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    Jun 27, 2020, 06:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How about the primary in New York? In Kentucky? In Wisconsin? Oh, yes -- don't want to forget mentioning Georgia!
    Yes these people were given the vote but should not be allowed to exercise it, afterall look who they elected
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    #725

    Jun 27, 2020, 06:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes these people were given the vote but should not be allowed to exercise it, afterall look who they elected
    We don't know who they voted for. It was a primary. No one was "elected."
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    Jun 27, 2020, 06:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    We don't know who they voted for. It was a primary. No one was "elected."
    In a primary you vote for someone and all the candidates were either defeated or undesirable so as I said, and we remember what they did last time
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    #727

    Jun 27, 2020, 07:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    In a primary you vote for someone and all the candidates were either defeated or undesirable so as I said, and we remember what they did last time
    What did they do last time?
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    Jun 27, 2020, 07:43 PM
    How about the primary in New York? In Kentucky? In Wisconsin? Oh, yes -- don't want to forget mentioning Georgia!
    You might want to get a little specific. Just throwing out the names of states doesn't accomplish much.
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    Jun 27, 2020, 07:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You might want to get a little specific. Just throwing out the names of states doesn't accomplish much.
    Google, please. To help you for the first one, good keywords are "Georgia primary voting problems" (without quote marks).
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    Jun 27, 2020, 07:54 PM
    If you don't know any specifics, then how do you know that anything happened? And if you don't know, then why list the states? And if you know so much about searches, then why don't you know the specifics?
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    #731

    Jun 27, 2020, 07:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you don't know any specifics, then how do you know that anything happened? And if you don't know, then why list the states? And if you know so much about searches, then why don't you know the specifics?
    Why are you being so helpless?
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    Jun 27, 2020, 08:53 PM
    You have no answers but you think I'm helpless???

    At any rate, go to church tomorrow. I get to go in the morning and join with other Christians in praising our faithful God. Some of them are men struggling with addiction. All kinds of problems are represented there, but we have our faith in Christ. It's a wonderful privilege. I'm forever grateful to have it.
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    Jun 28, 2020, 08:37 AM
    Wear a mask and keep your proper distance.
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    Jun 28, 2020, 08:04 PM
    Yes he looks better that way
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    Jun 29, 2020, 04:12 AM
    "Chicago's weekend shootings kill at least 13, including 1-year-old boy, 10-year-old girl, reports say."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicagos-...-year-old-girl
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    Jun 29, 2020, 04:22 AM
    That's life in the big city, find one that doesn't have crime.
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    Jun 29, 2020, 04:37 AM
    My gosh. What a casual answer. If only they had been killed by cops. Then we could get some people really concerned.
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    Jun 29, 2020, 06:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    My gosh. What a casual answer. If only they had been killed by cops. Then we could get some people really concerned.
    yes that's what it takes, apparently, they weren't black
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    Jun 29, 2020, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    My gosh. What a casual answer. If only they had been killed by cops. Then we could get some people really concerned.
    You haven't shown any concern since the civil war was over and less before it started so please spare me your fake concern NOW!
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    Jun 29, 2020, 07:14 AM
    I'd be happy to see any kind of concern at all from you. There is nothing.
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