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    Jul 27, 2020, 05:04 AM
    I don't see any drug company touting HydroQ for anything Covid related. That's a telling clue to how effective Big Pharma thinks it is. They'll pay doctors to say anything about their drugs and none has pushed for approval against covid19.
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    Jul 31, 2020, 06:54 AM
    nonsense . HQ is otc and costs pennies per dose . There is no way big Pharma is going to promote it when there are drugs that cost thousands to peddle .
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    #563

    Jul 31, 2020, 07:16 AM
    This is what happens when you take HQ

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...1B&FORM=VDQVAP
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    Jul 31, 2020, 08:54 AM
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    #565

    Jul 31, 2020, 06:40 PM
    We have had four years of ack ack
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    #566

    Aug 2, 2020, 03:42 AM
    and 8 years of quack quack before that.
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    Aug 2, 2020, 06:04 AM
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    and 8 years of quack quack before that.
    Years that Obama guided the nation out of the financial quagmire where Bush and the Republicans put the country. The best quack quack you've ever seen!
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    #568

    Aug 2, 2020, 08:00 PM
    It is clear the consequence of taking HQ long term (ie; Trump) is to become mentally dull. He talks of resurgence all over the world, but he doesn't see the relevance of enduring the pain of lockdown now to stop the spread and get a better outcome. he would rather be reelected than save one unnecessary death. We have learned the lesson, this path is not the path out of CV19 and the state of Victoria in Australia is now in full scale lockdown including curtailment of freedoms and although bad, the situation is no where as bad as in the US, it is just that the standard of care and responsibility is higher
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    Aug 3, 2020, 09:49 AM
    yes there are side effects from long term use of HQ . Fortunately there would be no long term use of it for C-19 treatment . The complete lock down is absolutely intolerable . Part of the reason for the people of Victoria rebelling was Daniel Andrews draconian restrictions before this . He is the il duce Cuomo of Australia .
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    Aug 3, 2020, 11:06 AM
    You don't like lockdowns? Nobody does, so where is the market solutions that are also safe to implement? I might add that the fed infused trillions to keep those markets afloat through this crisis, so maybe that's what main street needs too.
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    Aug 3, 2020, 03:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yes there are side effects from long term use of HQ . Fortunately there would be no long term use of it for C-19 treatment . The complete lock down is absolutely intolerable . Part of the reason for the people of Victoria rebelling was Daniel Andrews draconian restrictions before this . He is the il duce Cuomo of Australia .
    We don't have such characters here, our political system weeds them out quickly. Andrews has lasted as long as premier as some but no doubt won't survive the next election and given the rigors of the job he may not want to. He has faced two disasters in a year. The restrictions arn't draconian but given the level of infection spread by Victorians, necessary. Even my own family has suffered isolation due to their wanderings
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    #572

    Aug 3, 2020, 06:19 PM
    Try to understand this. I have ,and continue to argue ,this virus won't go away until herd immunity is achieved . That doesn't mean everyone need become seriously ill by it . We have plenty of evidence that most age groups are not nearly as vulnerable to serious illness.

    Vaccines may help that to be achieved . Another possibility is through viral inoculum .The theory is an old but tried and true one. General Washington inoculated the colonial army with small pox to build up immunity . If he hadn't done that the colonial army would not have survived .

    So how does that get achieved without a working vaccine ? Could it be that wearing masks is one way ? Now the argument for wearing masks has been to prevent you from infecting others . But does the mask also help prevent you from getting a serious dose of the virus ? These doctors argue it does.

    Although the benefit of population-level public facial masking to protect others during the COVID-19 pandemic has received a great deal of attention, we discuss for one of the first times the hypothesis that universal masking reduces the “inoculum” or dose of the virus for the mask-wearer, leading to more mild and asymptomatic infection manifestations. Masks, depending on type, filter out the majority of viral particles, but not all. ....... Exposing society to SARS-CoV-2 without the unacceptable consequences of severe illness with public masking could lead to greater community-level immunity and slower spread as we await a vaccine.
    https://link.springer.com/article/10...JoOIcfqLnYyi-E

    They go on to explain the theory in further detail and conclude their report with this (tal read it carefully )
    The efforts to preserve life must be balanced against the catastrophic consequences of shutting down economies, which ultimately will lead to more suffering, poverty, and death than the virus itself, especially for the working poor. Although universal public masking can certainly protect others, the “inoculum” theory argues for a major protective effect for the individual and will allow for the preservation of life, along with other COVID-19 control measures, as society re-opens. This perspective puts forth another advantage of population-level facial masking for pandemic control with SARS-CoV-2 based on an old but enduring theory regarding viral inoculum, clinical manifestations in the host, and protection.
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    Aug 3, 2020, 07:48 PM
    The efforts to preserve life must be balanced against the catastrophic consequences of shutting down economies, which ultimately will lead to more suffering, poverty, and death than the virus itself, especially for the working poor
    Tom I agree that shutting down economies cannot be a long term strategy, however, if governments don't act to protect populations, and particularly the vulnerable, from the idiot fringe of society they will be held accountable. Businesses that fail are marginal at best and cannot be propped up at the expense of society in the interests of capitalist economics

    Herd immunity is a falacy, CV19 is related to the common cold, there is no herd immunity to the common cold
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    Aug 4, 2020, 03:00 AM
    I certainly agree that the economic and health needs of the country should be balanced Tom, but that's not what we're doing is it? The dufus and conservatives are pushing for full opening and economic activity despite the growing health numbers that say slow down or get overwhelmed. The whole economy isn't affected the same way, just those low paying working poor service jobs you want to mask up and keep working taking the biggest hit, and nobody wants to treat them, or pay for them to recover, or even test them properly.

    Now we can wait for your herd immunity to kick in, but the quarantined still have to eat and pay rent, and get treated, and hospitals are full and expanding to tents if they can afford it. So let me know when you get that balance between sick poor people and full hospital beds.

    Let me ask you this then, after 7 months why don't we have the testing the dufus has? You know, quick easy and immediate results? We all know waiting for a week to know your status is useless and potentially dangerous.
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    #575

    Aug 4, 2020, 11:34 AM
    you have to ask yourself ;why can a MLB player like Joey Votto say he has symptoms ;get tested and have results the next day ?
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    Aug 4, 2020, 12:41 PM
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    you have to ask yourself ;why can a MLB player like Joey Votto say he has symptoms ;get tested and have results the next day ?
    Ask the dufus, he said everybody who want or needs a test can get one. He didn't promise when you would get the results though so maybe that's why he gave a camera company a billion bucks to save us from the virus.
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    #577

    Aug 5, 2020, 04:08 PM
    you haven't heard of the two speed economy or one rule for the rich and one for the peons? Of course someone high profile will get favoured treatment, probably has a lab on standby for the team. Who knows, maybe facial recognition technology can identify the virus stricken individuals by their heat signature
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    #578

    Aug 5, 2020, 05:14 PM
    Saw on the news they're training dogs to sniff out people who have corona.
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    Aug 5, 2020, 05:36 PM
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    Saw on the news they're training dogs to sniff out people who have corona.
    Yes dogs are great detectives, now when they train them to identify and administer HQ...................
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    Aug 5, 2020, 07:18 PM
    Facebook just removed the comments the dufus made about children being immune as dangerous covid misinformation.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp

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