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talaniman · Apr 19, 2020, 05:50 AM

So where is the turleface and his band of merry mushrooms? The SBA money is gone and those that needed it didn't get it so where did it go? States cannot process the money to Mainstreet but Wall Street is still doing great! This pandemic has shown our weakness that need to be addressed in many areas of our society, while the dufus blusters and dithers and blames everybody else for his own incompetence.

jlisenbe · Apr 19, 2020, 05:57 AM

those that needed it didn't get it

How do you know they didn't get it? CNN report?

talaniman · Apr 19, 2020, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

How do you know they didn't get it? CNN report?

Because it's gone and people are lining up in food lines.

paraclete · Apr 19, 2020, 06:30 AM

so nothing new then. I heard that the death rate hasn't changed, this is despite all the CV deaths

talaniman · Apr 19, 2020, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

so nothing new then. I heard that the death rate hasn't changed, this is despite all the CV deaths

I don't know what you mean about the death rates hasn't changed as some parts of the population like the poor elderly, and minorities, have indeed been hard hit by the virus so you may have to explain that and the poverty rate has definitely increased tremendously due to the virus.

Wondergirl · Apr 19, 2020, 09:09 AM

Let the pres do the leading.

The WHAT???

paraclete · Apr 19, 2020, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

I don't know what you mean about the death rates hasn't changed as some parts of the population like the poor elderly, and minorities, have indeed been hard hit by the virus so you may have to explain that and the poverty rate has definitely increased tremendously due to the virus.

Well maybe there are fewer motor accidents, and fewer gun deaths and winter takes the elderly anyway with flu and such like so it balances out

Athos · Apr 19, 2020, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Well maybe there are fewer motor accidents, and fewer gun deaths and winter takes the elderly anyway with flu and such like so it balances out

I think you self-identify as a "Christian"?

Did Jesus say,

Blessed are the motor accidents, for they thin the herd.
Blessed are the gun murderers, for they keep the streets clean.
Blessed are the seasons, for they eliminate those pesky old people.

jlisenbe · Apr 19, 2020, 05:45 PM

I think you missed his point. Either that or I missed his point.

paraclete · Apr 19, 2020, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

I think you self-identify as a "Christian"?

Did Jesus say,

Blessed are the motor accidents, for they thin the herd.
Blessed are the gun murderers, for they keep the streets clean.
Blessed are the seasons, for they eliminate those pesky old people.

What has my being a christian have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I think you missed his point. Either that or I missed his point.

He only wants to point score but he is way off this time, my point is things are not really any worse than they usually are, it is just that people don't connect the dots

Originally Posted by Athos

I think you self-identify as a "Christian"?

Did Jesus say,

Blessed are the motor accidents, for they thin the herd.
Blessed are the gun murderers, for they keep the streets clean.
Blessed are the seasons, for they eliminate those pesky old people.

What Jesus did say

³Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
⁴Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
⁵Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the Earth.
⁶Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
⁷Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
⁸Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
⁹Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
¹⁰Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
¹¹Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
¹²Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

so drawing your attention to the last three verses, I am blessed

Athos · Apr 19, 2020, 06:20 PM

Oh, I think you both know what was meant.

paraclete · Apr 19, 2020, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Oh, I think you both know what was meant.

Yes your allusion to my being a Christian was meant as a put down, but, in fact, you blessed me, something very unintentional

jlisenbe · Apr 19, 2020, 07:04 PM

my point is things are not really any worse than they usually are

That's exactly what I got from your statement. It seemed rather clear.

I think you both know what was meant.

Yes, we do. Exactly correct.

talaniman · Apr 20, 2020, 03:55 AM

You cannot hide behind your religion and spout off about ignoring the least. People are sick and dying and you talk about the failing economy, debts and deficits? You guys are sicker than the dufus.

jlisenbe · Apr 20, 2020, 04:07 AM

Oh get over yourself. No one has suggested we ignore the sick and dying.

talaniman · Apr 20, 2020, 04:18 AM

The dufus did. He wants to open things up again amid the data saying otherwise and blames governors for what he himself is doing nothing about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us...cid=spartanntp

Pick out his lies and comments the past few weeks regarding testing. So while you are imploring me to get over myself, you should get your own act in gear and do your own homework rather than blast on mine.

jlisenbe · Apr 20, 2020, 05:42 AM

The economy has to be opened back up. Trump is talking about the process of doing so. So are a number of governors. "Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and the governors of six other northeast states on Monday announced they are forming a multi-state task force to develop a plan to reopen their economies in conjunction with efforts to control the coronavirus pandemic."
https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...h-15196963.php

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bip...economy-safely

"After spending weeks diving into coronavirus issues over video conferencing, a bipartisan group of 50 House members has crafted a plan for what's needed to reopen the economy safely and help businesses recover from crippling mandatory shutdowns."

Pick out his lies? It's your assertion. You do the work. Oh yeah. I keep forgetting that you are a lib dem. I guess that explains why you want someone else to do the work?

paraclete · Apr 20, 2020, 06:04 AM

The obscession with money has got in the way of common sense, reopen the economy when there are no new infections

jlisenbe · Apr 20, 2020, 06:14 AM

We keep talking about reopening the economy as though the economy is shut down. It is not really shut down. The unemployment rate is currently about 20%, meaning that something like 80% of people are still working. It has slowed down, but is certainly not closed down. We must reverse this trend, however, and the application of a little common sense would be helpful. There are entire states which are not shut down at all since it is not needed. Sweden is not shut down. Maybe if people stop calling names and throwing accusations around, it might prove helpful.

talaniman · Apr 20, 2020, 08:41 AM

What Clete said makes sense, but so far JL unemployment is climbing and the number of states with NO infections doesn't exist, so correct me if I'm wrong in that the 80% still working is likely to decrease as well in time. Not so sure I'm ready to embrace the Swedish model.

New unemployment numbers in a week or so.