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paraclete · Mar 24, 2020, 06:18 PM

same to you with brass balls on

jlisenbe · Mar 24, 2020, 07:12 PM

Well then we both made the same mistake. We both assumed you knew what you were talking about, and we were both wrong.

talaniman · Mar 24, 2020, 07:24 PM

The dems would be very foolish to pass a bill repubs write without scrutiny. The same would go if the roles were reversed, and that's where compromise begins to get a bill in the first place. Of course Turtle face wants a quick bill with no strings attached and go home and run for re election, with something to brag about, as do the dems have their own agenda too for sure, but nobody leaves without a deal.

jlisenbe · Mar 24, 2020, 07:27 PM

Now that it is firmly established that money just grows on trees, it really doesn't matter that much. Instead of squeezing this bill down to manageable size, they have just let it expand into the stratosphere. It's just a bad reflection of both parties.

talaniman · Mar 24, 2020, 07:51 PM

The system is as flawed as the people who run it, and getting worse.

paraclete · Mar 24, 2020, 09:52 PM

I think the mistake you make is believing there is a system when there is only chaos

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 04:12 AM

The system is as flawed as the people who run it, and getting worse.

Can't forget about the people who elect them.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 04:47 AM

I have said before that America got the president it deserves, so yeah I remembered that component as well. We screwed ourselves pretty good. Such is the way of humans. We now face the challenge of what our priority should be, dealing with the virus, or dealing with our economy. Somehow we have to do both, but an economy cannot be strong without healthy people. So it's a no brainer for me that a hospital TRUMPS the factory in this moment in time.

I don't think we can keep dithering about resourcing our health care system right now.

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 04:51 AM

got the president it deserves,

If you are referring to Obama, then that's a good point.

Honestly, what we are getting is a group of people who are completely irresponsible with spending and who have figured out that the American people are evidently dumb enough to accept deficit spending year after year without being able to look years down the road and see where this is going to take us. It used to be largely democrats, but now even the repubs have figured out that calling for fiscal sanity is a great way to get voted out of office by an electorate all too happy to get the goodies without having to pay for them.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 05:21 AM

Who is the president NOW? Stop acting like a dufus!

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 05:41 AM

Who is the president NOW? Stop acting like a dufus!

Stop with the name calling and address the real issues. Obama rode 10 tril of deficit spending. Trump is going down the same road. They are, in many ways, two peas in a pod. You worship at the altar of Obama and refuse to see it. That's unfortunate.

tomder55 · Mar 25, 2020, 05:54 AM

2 trillion . Can't wait to break it down . Betting on more that half is pure pork .

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 06:26 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

The legislation, unprecedented in its size and scope, aims to flood the economy with capital by sending $1,200 checks to many Americans, creating a $367 billion loan program for small businesses and setting up a $500 billion fund for industries, cities and states. Other provisions include a massive boost to unemployment insurance, $150 billion for state and local stimulus funds, and $130 billion for hospitals. The bill more than doubled in size in just a few days.

tomder55 · Mar 25, 2020, 06:55 AM

and that is the 2nd bill passed and you know there is more coming . Like I said a cr@p sandwich . That's ok our children and grandchildren will sing our praises as they pay for a generational theft

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 07:18 AM

The bill more than doubled in size in just a few days.

In other words, there has been very little real thought put into it. Why would they need to send checks to the great majority of Americans who still have their jobs? This is largely election year vote-buying.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

In other words, there has been very little real thought put into it. Why would they need to send checks to the great majority of Americans who still have their jobs? This is largely election year vote-buying.

So they can hunker down for a few MONTHS until the tsunami recedes?

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 07:51 AM

So we will send money we don't have to people who don't need it? What a plan.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 08:33 AM

Waitresses, teachers, and a host of others need it! Specificallly who doesn't need it?

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 08:43 AM

Teachers are still being paid so they don't need it. No one needs it who still has a job which is most people. As for those who don't, unemployment kicks in for them.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 04:30 PM

I think you get outvoted yet again dude, sorry, but in three weeks until the money rolls out a lot can change especially riding around looking for a freaking roll of toilet paper. Or a bag of rice and beans.