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paraclete · Mar 23, 2020, 02:29 PM

you always have the opportunity to argue here, what has changed?

jlisenbe · Mar 23, 2020, 02:56 PM

you always have the opportunity to argue here, what has changed?

Tal and I are back to being brothers so that's not an option right now. WG seems to be back in one of her quiet times. Yawn!!

paraclete · Mar 23, 2020, 05:33 PM

yes Yawn indeed

talaniman · Mar 23, 2020, 06:40 PM

We never stop being brothers (And sister) Clete, even as we "fight". Sibling fight all the time don't they? It's still all good.

paraclete · Mar 23, 2020, 07:18 PM

ok friend

talaniman · Mar 24, 2020, 12:29 PM

States are moving there primaries back a few months during the coronacrisis, and candidates are holding virtual townhalls for their campaigns. Hope we don't cancel the elections in November because we are still to sick to vote.

tomder55 · Mar 24, 2020, 01:14 PM

could be ,the Aussies got it in the middle of summer . So maybe this covid version is more hearty .

paraclete · Mar 24, 2020, 09:56 PM

could be ,the Aussies got it in the middle of summer . So maybe this covid version is more hearty .

I don't think it is seasonal, although the Chinese experience may be instructional. What we have experienced doesn't seem to be as deadly with only a small number of deaths so far but then with 2,300 infections it hasn't infected a large percentage of the population, the outcome , as far as the effect on the economy goes, is far more deadly. Stimulus beyond reason, shutdowns beyond reason

what has emerged is the deadliest place to be is a cruiseship

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...e7b5c664e65080

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 04:11 AM

Stimulus beyond reason, shutdowns beyond reason

Correct and correct.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 04:56 AM

I don't see the gobs of money being appropriated as a stimulus. It's more a maintenance plug to keep some semblence of stability as we shut stuff down to deal with an easily transmitted virus. If our response to the virus is tepid and half a$$ed, then we have no chance to avoid a full blown disaster.

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 05:06 AM

Entering into an economic depression would also qualify as a full-blown disaster.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 05:16 AM

Rising infection rates is NOT?

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 05:43 AM

If you destroy the economy, then how will the sick be helped??? Who will be able to help them?

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 06:08 AM

What an interesting conundrum send people to work, more get sicker, and no room for them in a hospital. Does that help the economy? Would you also recommend we work through a tsunamis? You may as well wrap your head around we have a force assaulting us NOW! That's what we have as a priority, as we have built great economies before following financial disasters.

The virus is destroying the economy so that's what we deal with, or there may be no economy.

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 07:19 AM

The question remains unanswered. If you destroy the economy, then how will the sick be helped??? Who will be able to help them?

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 07:38 AM

People aren't destroying the economy, the virus is was my answer. What kind of economy would we have with half of us sick and dying? Staying home slows the spread, going to work accelerates it so what should you do?

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 07:53 AM

Be selective.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 08:07 AM

Please explain.

jlisenbe · Mar 25, 2020, 08:13 AM

As the ability to test and selectively quarantine expands, then the ability to open up the economy will also expand. It helps a lot when you can be sure that someone does NOT have the virus.

talaniman · Mar 25, 2020, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

As the ability to test and selectively quarantine expands, then the ability to open up the economy will also expand. It helps a lot when you can be sure that someone does NOT have the virus.

I mostly agree, as long as the tests results support what can be expanded or opened. The economy isn't dead, and essentials are still functional if not as robust.