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    #181

    Feb 22, 2020, 08:49 AM
    Talaniman: Its different, isn't it, when its yours: They both can be bastards but its O.K. when its your BILLIONAIRE BASTARD?
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    #182

    Feb 22, 2020, 11:02 AM
    The things you cannot grasp are your responsibility to correct.
    Kind of hard to grasp that which is never said.

    Plus I have my own issues to deal with.
    We have a winner!
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    #183

    Feb 22, 2020, 11:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Kind of hard to grasp that which is never said.

    We have a winner!
    You probably missed it or didn't recognize it. You are getting on in age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Talaniman: Its different, isn't it, when its yours: They both can be bastards but its O.K. when its your BILLIONAIRE BASTARD?
    No difference, but to beat a BB, you might need another BB.
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    #184

    Feb 22, 2020, 11:35 AM
    You probably missed it or didn't recognize it. You are getting on in age.
    Nah. Never said. You're living in your fantasy world again.
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    #185

    Feb 22, 2020, 02:36 PM
    Others responded so maybe you missed that too!
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    #186

    Feb 22, 2020, 02:37 PM
    Actually, that didn't happen either. Our discussion centered around median income. Sorry.
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    #187

    Feb 22, 2020, 03:33 PM
    Amazing how you think your narrow definition excludes all the factors of a conversation. No wonder you missed it.
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    #188

    Feb 22, 2020, 03:44 PM
    Says the man who cannot come up with even a whisper of a quote to prove his point. We were discussing median income. There was no math to do. I have no idea what you are talking about and I don't think you do either.
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    #189

    Feb 22, 2020, 04:31 PM
    You can only discuss an isolated statistic for so long, in this case it proves nothing because of massive population growth
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    #190

    Feb 22, 2020, 04:34 PM
    , in this case it proves nothing because of massive population growth
    Massive pop growth in the U.S. in the past twenty years? An addition of forty million does not amount to some sort of massive pop growth for a country of 330 million. If it did anything, it would drive wages down and lower the median.

    Why are you guys so resistant to the simple truth that our economy is doing very well? Unemployment figures and median income figures both tell the same story. I think Tal doesn't like it because he doesn't like Trump, and Clete doesn't like it because it might reflect well on the United States and he seems to resent that.
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    #191

    Feb 22, 2020, 04:52 PM
    What is the debate here ? There is no question the economy is better now . How do I know ? Because the emperor tried to take credit for it .
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    #192

    Feb 22, 2020, 04:53 PM
    What is the debate here ?
    I am wondering the same thing. I have no idea. I guess we could throw GDP growth in there as well as it's been above 2% in 11 of the past 12 quarters.
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    #193

    Feb 22, 2020, 06:57 PM
    My economy has been going very well since 2002. Challenges and glitchs, nothing big. Not everyone everywhere has been as fortunate as I have.
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    #194

    Feb 22, 2020, 07:59 PM
    My economy has been going very well since 2002. Challenges and glitchs, nothing big
    Of course I'm glad you're doing well, but you do realize we are not just talking about your well being? We're talking about how the country is doing.
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    #195

    Feb 22, 2020, 08:31 PM
    I think, by and large, albeit not in every single case, that the left in general has a difficult time giving accolades to Trump because he is a Republican AND he, by comparison to many Beltway and lawyerly political types, is not smooth, not polished, not polite, crass, and is definitely an OUTSIDER compared to other Presidents...some would say he isn't Presidential. BUT, could you imagine, ROMNEY would have been all of those things, would have had all of the "attributes" and would have been a HORRIBLE PRESIDENT!

    We have to get past the things that don't matter when looking at EFFECTIVENESS in people, and that includes our elected leaders. Trump has done a great job with the economy and only bitter people cannot come to admit this truth.
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    #196

    Feb 22, 2020, 08:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Trump has done a great job with the economy and only bitter people cannot come to admit this truth.
    ...while leaning on Obama's being able to pull it out of the hole W put it into. And the economy is the only thing that tRump can brag about at all.
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    Feb 23, 2020, 03:44 AM
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    #198

    Feb 23, 2020, 04:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Of course I'm glad you're doing well, but you do realize we are not just talking about your well being? We're talking about how the country is doing.
    Very true, but many are not sharing in how well the country is doing. If they did, the country could do even better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    I think, by and large, albeit not in every single case, that the left in general has a difficult time giving accolades to Trump because he is a Republican AND he, by comparison to many Beltway and lawyerly political types, is not smooth, not polished, not polite, crass, and is definitely an OUTSIDER compared to other Presidents...some would say he isn't Presidential. BUT, could you imagine, ROMNEY would have been all of those things, would have had all of the "attributes" and would have been a HORRIBLE PRESIDENT!

    We have to get past the things that don't matter when looking at EFFECTIVENESS in people, and that includes our elected leaders. Trump has done a great job with the economy and only bitter people cannot come to admit this truth.
    LOL, I well remember the right wing noise machine being all over Obama for 8 years whether they were in power or not, but when they were it was 6 years of obstruction. Sure Moscow Mitch can make the point to make Obama a one term president from day one, so getting the same back is something repubs and righties should get use to.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    That's what makes incumbent tough to beat. Repub economies though seem to change in that second term historically, though.
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    #199

    Feb 23, 2020, 05:34 AM
    Greatest Leader of my lifetime.

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    Feb 23, 2020, 06:06 AM

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