[talaniman]

If Tom and Vac are right it's a shame a few idiots could endanger so many millions.

[paraclete]

If Tom and Vac are right it's a shame a few idiots could endanger so many millions.

who knows why they do it, some are kids with fireworks, some are stupid people off the land who think they know how to control fire, some are malicious, some opportunistic, but they are all idiots and I hope a special place in hell is reserved for them

[talaniman]

I'd settle for jail, restitution, and hard labor in a forrest, jungle or swamp.

[paraclete]

I'd settle for jail, restitution, and hard labor in a forrest, jungle or swamp.

You feint hearted lliberal, you

[talaniman]

Okay give me 10 minutes alone with the stupid b@stards.

[Vacuum7]

Talaniman: You can get a lot of "work" done in 10 minutes! Problem is, that kind of "work" would have been the only solution required if you could have caught them when they were pups...when they get older, the sickness is too well engrained! Pyromaniacs are truly psychologically unredeemable people, sad but true.

[paraclete]

There are a number of such afflictions upon the human race

[tomder55]

arson is one issue land mismanagement is the other biggie ..
https://audioboom.com/posts/7472516-...oreign-affairs

[paraclete]

arson is one issue land mismanagement is the other biggie ..
https://audioboom.com/posts/7472516-...oreign-affairs

Hi Tom, not sure what you are getting at. Fires have been a feature of that part of Australia for a long time. They are very prevalent in Victoria with a number of the worst outbreaks located there. Australia has a large number of national parks and state forests many in very inaccessible areas. These days Australia also has obligations to manage CO2 emissions and burning off releases emissions

[tomder55]

control fires create fire breaks which in turn control wild fires and make them manageable .The envirowackos put a stop to that much like the idiots here prevent the clearing of underbrush and forestry management
Did you listen to the interview with Gregory Copley ? It is informative .

[paraclete]

control fires create fire breaks which in turn control wild fires and make them manageable .The envirowackos put a stop to that much like the idiots here prevent the clearing of underbrush and forestry management
Did you listen to the interview with Gregory Copley ? It is informative .

It is informative only to those that don't live here, commenting about Melbourne is talking about a microcosm, Canberra, the national capital has the worst air quality in the world at the moment, so you can expect federal politicians to be very focused on the problem, I consider it poetic justice as that city is a haven for "liberals" and greens who have exacerbated the problem. Make no mistake this is a weather created problem, something that wasn't mentioned. The drought has left many areas parched and tinder dry. This weather problem is not driven by climate change but the interaction of three southern hemisphere weather systems. The el Nino system, the Indian ocean dipole and the southern ocean oscillation and they have combined to create dry hot conditions this season.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/e...f144c6902d36dc

What is happening is on a continent-wide scale, so talks of fire breaks are local management issues. Ember attacks during these events make fire breaks redundant. I have said before, some communities have rediculous vegetation management issues, tree preservation orders and so forth but it is a resourcing issue, there are not enough firefighting resources when you have events on this scale. You need multiple appliances a property and there wouldn't even be one a property

[talaniman]

All you can do is learn from the experience and do better next time Clete. You already know that excuses don't work.

[paraclete]

All you can do is learn from the experience and do better next time Clete. You already know that excuses don't work.

Not making excuses Tal, I don't expect these events to be visited on the nation again any time soon but we still have maybe two months of this fire season to go, once more unto the breach, dear friends or is that once more unto the beach, dear friends

[Vacuum7]

Just read that the Australian fires killed well over a billion animals: I expect that the Dingos weren't among those numbers and their population will probably benefit from the fires in a weird "Unnatural" balance.

[talaniman]

When your fire season is over, ours will begin except in certain regions, and for many that's tornado season.

[paraclete]

When your fire season is over, ours will begin except in certain regions, and for many that's tornado season.

Yes Tal I get it you have natural disasters too, You have hurricane season, you have tornado season and our cyclone season has begun with two cyclones

[tomder55]

Tal ;we have chaparral that no longer gets cleared from the fire zones ….they have the same problem with eucalyptus trees . Fires happen .That is natural .If left to their own they will burn until they burn out. OR humans can manage it .

[paraclete]

Yes the trees are native and the forests vast but there is also scrub which burns hot and quick, rain will supress the fires, until the weather moderates we have to defend the towns any thought of getting ahead of the game is fanciful

[talaniman]

Yes Mother Nature has always been here, but it costs humans MONEY to deal with her and even more to manage whatever she decides to do. I mean who's paying for those volunteers and the equipment they use? You are feeding them right? How about paying for clearing the brush when it's NOT burning?

Everything humans do has a cost to it, and Mother Nature can make it go up in smoke rather quickly.

[paraclete]

Yes Mother Nature has always been here, but it costs humans MONEY to deal with her and even more to manage whatever she decides to do. I mean who's paying for those volunteers and the equipment they use? You are feeding them right? How about paying for clearing the brush when it's NOT burning?

Everything humans do has a cost to it, and Mother Nature can make it go up in smoke rather quickly.

Noone pays our volunteers Tal they are volunteers who offer their service willingly, they don't seek reward but our government has arranged a grant to those who have been engaged in the fight for a certain time. the equipment is provided by government and sometimes public donation. as to clearing interesting thought but I expect our leftists would be opposed and hold up proceedings with more useless demonstrations