[jlisenbe]

I don't care what you get JL, but why whine about it, just don't take it if it's so bad. What, do the feds hold a gun to your head and make you take the money? LOL, it's crazy hollering about people taking YOUR money while you take theirs.

Yeah. I can tell you don't care by all of the complaining you do about it. Do you people in Texas turn down fed money? When you do, then you can come over here and tell us how you liked it.

[talaniman]

It's our money, we pay more into the system than we take out so it's not like we are taking YOUR money.

[jlisenbe]

It's our money, we pay more into the system than we take out so it's not like we are taking YOUR money.

Then vote for people who will help you keep it. I'm with you on that. I'd love to see a smaller fed govt that doesn't pass out welfare benefits like candy on Halloween.

Hey Tal, a little change of subject. Saw this ad on Facebook. Why would anyone want to pay 13 bucks for a receptacle? What's the advantage with this one?

https://www.emisupply.com/catalog/le...U#.XfuaIuhKjIU

Why would someone buy that as opposed to this?

https://www.homelectrical.com/15-amp...re01asw.1.html

[talaniman]

The economic realities of a growing aging population has certainly changed the traditional thinking and conditions of all of us. Especially younsters just getting their feet wet, but still prices rising faster than wages is going to be the primary challenge even with some states stepping in and raising their MW's it's just passed on to consumers and 3% wage growth just ain't going to cut it.

Found this at my FAVORITE store to compare product prices.

[jlisenbe]

3% wage growth works fine when inflation is at its current 2.5%.

I know they have different prices. I just wonder why anyone would pay 13 dollars, or even 6 dollars, for a receptacle when you can buy them all day long for a buck and a half. It must have some glaring advantage or feature that I'm not seeing.

[talaniman]

I have to disagree when inflation tends to wipe out the agregate buying power of any wage growth and while it's better than 0, .50 doesn't get your household budget very far.

You know, what a contractor and a DYI'er buy are vastly different because of who can pay for it and the overall view of the project, and the budget, or PROFITS. Me, I'm cheap when I do the work for ME. 8D

[jlisenbe]

I have to disagree when inflation tends to wipe out the agregate buying power of any wage growth

Well, that was kind of the whole point. When wages grow faster than inflation, then your buying power actually is increasing, not decreasing.

[talaniman]

Unfortunately 50cents extra don't help me pay my winter heating bill as a practical matter, but better than NOTHING? Just trying to keep a positive attitude.

[jlisenbe]

Roger that.

[talaniman]

Just an honest question does the UK losing the EU as a trading partner cost them money?

[paraclete]

Just an honest question does the UK losing the EU as a trading partner cost them money?

They haven't lost them as a trading partner, the customs union stays in place for at least a year while a trade pact is negotiated, what they have gained is new or old trading partners they abandoned in the rush to join the Europen utopia

[jlisenbe]

And greater freedom.

[talaniman]

Seems they have lost the economic benefits that trading with EU members afforded them, or will lose them soon.

[paraclete]

And greater freedom.

yes that is what it is about, trade will happen anyway

[talaniman]

Social issues rile us up here too!

[paraclete]

Social issues rile us up here too!

You are not as riled about immigration as they are

[talaniman]

Desperate and hopeful brown men women and children are no threat to me, and some of my peeps have been through a lot of and even more cruel crap from those who are riled by the thought of sharing the lands with others different than them. They are but the latest targets of fear and hate, not that they now like the past objects of their fear and hate. That struggle still rages.

[paraclete]

You must be up to your ears in them and my son just told me he wants to move to Texas, seems he thinks you are free over there, free to do what?

[talaniman]

Not really Clete that's just the anti immigrant hype. The brown people have been going back and forth for centuries and so have we here in America. Shame spending OPM on a stupid wall. I said the same thing about the fence way back in the day, just to make a few white people feel better about themselves.

Tell your son if he isn't a racist hater the he will enjoy as much freedom if not more than anywhere on the planet. Free to do what you ask? Freedom to pursue his own happiness.

[paraclete]

He is free to do that here, he just isn't allowed to shout hate in someoneelse's face