[paraclete]

https://www.mail.com/int/business/ma...-stage-hero1-1

Appears France is in more trouble than usual, and it is about money. Surprise, surprise, you cannot take away benefits in a socialist economy without the masses rising and yet they don't actually know what the proposed changes might be. Just the thought is enough, and yet in other places reform can happen when approached in a reasoned way

[jlisenbe]

Perhaps France should be spelled G-R-E-E-C-E.

[talaniman]

Not a very good rollout of proposed reforms for sure but what did they expect? They had to see that coming.

[Vacuum7]

France takes no hard lines on anything....they flex at whims...expect them to give into the anarchist....They have a jellified backbone on all issues EXCEPT hating Dnald Trump where the little wuss Macron become a HE MAN and tries to blow his chest out and act tough: Macron, if you haven't noticed is a real slimy bastard.

France can only be saved if the Rightist/Nationalist come to power to drag their bacon out of the fire.

[talaniman]

Reminds me of the Tea Party protests about social security during the Obama Care debates.

[paraclete]

France takes no hard lines on anything....they flex at whims...expect them to give into the anarchist....They have a jellified backbone on all issues EXCEPT hating Dnald Trump where the little wuss Macron become a HE MAN and tries to blow his chest out and act tough: Macron, if you haven't noticed is a real slimy bastard.

France can only be saved if the Rightist/Nationalist come to power to drag their bacon out of the fire.

The nationalists did not succeed, Macron defeated them, and now he thinks he has the power to reform the state. perhaps he is taking a leaf out of Trump's book

[talaniman]

It's no wonder the French would be so up in arms if Macron thinks like the dufus does, that his win entitles him to do whatever he wants, the way he wants. The dufus is a poor example to follow if indeed Macron is channeling him.

[Vacuum7]

Talaniman: I'm no Tea Party fan but the Tea Party didn't get into the street and start tearing and burning things up like the French are doing.

I doubt Macron is channeling Trump: Remember, he's the guy who squeezed the hell out of Trump's small hands: I have worked with some Pipe Fitters in my time who took extreme pleasure in punishing you with brutal, vise-grip handshakes that could almost put you on your knees: NOT FUN!

[jlisenbe]

When the French economy is humming along like ours, then I would compare Macron to Trump. Right now he is a midget compared to Trump. He is a much slicker politician. I will give him that, but virtually everyone is a better politician than Trump.

[talaniman]

Point taken Vac, but the two civic movements/protests mirror each other with the fear of gubment taking away a cherished and important benefit to them. Maybe the French have a wild group embeddeded in the protestors and strikers more prone to more violence, as most protests here are known to have, but it's the same dynamic and lets face it as I tried to point out above Macron could and should have taken a greater care in his rollout of his reforms he wanted. Whether he channeled the dufus or not he bears some responsibility for the confusion, as does the dufus when he rolls out his plans to deal with our issues, most notably his treatment of migrants "caravans', dreamers, kids, his wall, budgets, vets, or a multitude of brash words and the actions that follow.

Seems that a more thoughtful care to the feelings of springing uncertainty on affected constituents would have mitigated the chaos and confusion is all I'm saying. Obviously the dufus doesn't care how his words and actions are perceived or reacted to, and it appears Macron doesn't either in this case at least.

Will Macron take responsibility for this confusion? If not that is right out of the dufus playbook in my view. What do I know since I never took pleasure in inflicting pain on anyone.

When the French economy is humming along like ours, then I would compare Macron to Trump. Right now he is a midget compared to Trump. He is a much slicker politician. I will give him that, but virtually everyone is a better politician than Trump.

True that especially given the protests that have been going on all year in France. Hard to NOT have seen this coming and taken steps to prevent such confusion in an already volatile atmosphere. Like throwing a lit cigarette out the window during the dry season.

CARELESS!

[jlisenbe]

True that especially given the protests that have been going on all year in France. Hard to NOT have seen this coming and taken steps to prevent such confusion in an already volatile atmosphere. Like throwing a lit cigarette out the window during the dry season.

CARELESS!

Pretty well said. You see! We agree again.

[talaniman]

It's almost a no brainer for any reasonably responsible person. You would expect that from a leader.

[Vacuum7]

France does parallel the U.S. in many ways.....I think it is forgotten that France assisted the birthing of the U.S. when they helped the Colonials in battling the British: We owe them a debt of gratitude and its a connection that is etched in the granite of time. But France is a country that is often hard to "like" and I say this after hearing so many foreigners I've know, most of them other Europeans, speak poorly of the "French attitude". France also has problems with aliens and immigrants, too, just like the U.S. and there are political fights over that subject there, as well. But when it comes to Macron, he just comes across as an arrogant arse.

[talaniman]

I didn't particularly care for the spectacle of the dufus and Macron slobbing and pawing each other when they first met. YUCK!

[jlisenbe]

I understand that. I felt the same way when Obama went over to some Arab country and bowed to their King or whatever he was. YUCK!

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor...%20KING(1).jpg

[paraclete]

I didn't particularly care for the spectacle of the dufus and Macron slobbing and pawing each other when they first met. YUCK!

Yes that bromance was quickly over, is it the Trump personality or are Macron and Trudeau just arseholes?

[talaniman]

Or is Vlad just passing the dufus around to the rest of the boys? Like Kim, Chi, Eroogan, Assad and the Saudi's.

[paraclete]

Or is Vlad just passing the dufus around to the rest of the boys? Like Kim, Chi, Eroogan, Assad and the Saudi's.

No you can't blame Vlad for this and we can be assured Vlad would not conduct himself this way

[talaniman]

And you know Vlad isn't the dufus pimpmaster how?

[paraclete]

And you know Vlad isn't the dufus pimpmaster how?

Is the US in Russian hands?