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Vacuum7 · Nov 23, 2019, 07:32 AM

BOMBSHELL!!! Ukrainians want investigation of Burisma, election meddling! Not good for Demos.

talaniman · Nov 23, 2019, 08:34 AM

We could sure use a link or something to read about it Vac.

talaniman · Nov 23, 2019, 08:42 AM

paraclete · Nov 23, 2019, 01:55 PM

I'm reminded of the words of an old song, and I paraphrase;

What ever Trump wants, Trump gets

Vacuum7 · Nov 23, 2019, 07:17 PM

Paraclete: Yes, the left goes "conventional warfare"....TRUMP GOES NUCLEAR!

paraclete · Nov 23, 2019, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

Paraclete: Yes, the left goes "conventional warfare"....TRUMP GOES NUCLEAR!

Are you sure it isn't a GAS attack?

Vacuum7 · Nov 24, 2019, 03:26 PM

Paraclete: Gas isn't a big enough show for Trump!

talaniman · Nov 25, 2019, 04:23 AM

Rigging the 2020 election is right up his alley though!

paraclete · Nov 25, 2019, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Rigging the 2020 election is right up his alley though!

Trump didn't rig the last election and he won't rig this one. Trump doesn't look worried, he knows the Domonrats got nothing and Bloomberg proves it

talaniman · Nov 25, 2019, 10:34 AM

He lied cheated and stole the last election, and is actively doing the same with this one, hoping to use the Ukraine this time along with Vlad again. He has repubs cowed to protect him but he has made some staunch enemies this time around and some of his tactics and antics may well backfire and those he fooled once may not be fooled as easily again so we'll see.

paraclete · Nov 25, 2019, 02:31 PM

You lost because the other guy cheated, forgetting it was an overwelhming victory over a small part of the country, Trump won in thousands of counties, the majority of states

jlisenbe · Nov 25, 2019, 04:20 PM

He lied cheated and stole the last election, and is actively doing the same with this one, hoping to use the Ukraine this time along with Vlad again.

I guess it's easier to say that than to say, "We ran an incompetent, unaccomplished, unethical candidate who thought she would win just because she was a woman, and we shockingly got our rear ends kicked." Yeah, it just had to be because Trump stole the election.

talaniman · Nov 25, 2019, 05:58 PM

Actually it's easier to say the truth the dufus won the electoral college by less than 100.000 votes in 5 states. He lost the popular vote by 3 million nation wide and neither candidate won a majority, and the dufus had Vlad on hiis side.

"Russia if your listening", and they responded! No body knew the dufus was under investigation, but everybody knew about HC. I don't think that will happen this time and that's why we are treated to the Biden's and Ukraine 2016 interference conspiracy crap, which is right out of Vlad/s playbook, and every repub is spouting it, and the r/w loony noise machine is at full volume. !

paraclete · Nov 25, 2019, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Actually it's easier to say the truth the dufus won the electoral college by less than 100.000 votes in 5 states. He lost the popular vote by 3 million nation wide and neither candidate won a majority, and the dufus had Vlad on hiis side.

"Russia if your listening", and they responded! No body knew the dufus was under investigation, but everybody knew about HC. I don't think that will happen this time and that's why we are treated to the Biden's and Ukraine 2016 interference conspiracy crap, which is right out of Vlad/s playbook, and every repub is spouting it, and the r/w loony noise machine is at full volume. !

The margin he won by doesn't matter, he won by the rules, no doubt you cried foul when GW Bush won by a narrow margin, that one had us all scratching our heads, but you have rules. Where I come from we don't like the idea of first past the post, we like to see a result based preference, that is, if more people don't like you even though you have the most votes you don't get up and your electoral college is something like that. You claim victory because a number of people in a small part of the country voted a particular way, but your system is designed to prevent that happening, you see Tal you don't just win with the majority of votes, you also have to carry the majority of states, so accept the result

talaniman · Nov 25, 2019, 09:03 PM

Oh I accept the results of the election Clete, we got what we deserve, but I don't like the words, antics, and behavior of the lying, cheating dufus, that the coalition pf racist and white evangelicals have coalesced behind, and repubs defend. Strange bedfellows indeed, but I suppose that's what happens when you let the loonies have their way.

paraclete · Nov 26, 2019, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Oh I accept the results of the election Clete, we got what we deserve, but I don't like the words, antics, and behavior of the lying, cheating dufus, that the coalition pf racist and white evangelicals have coalesced behind, and repubs defend. Strange bedfellows indeed, but I suppose that's what happens when you let the loonies have their way.

Tal, I agree the man leaves much to be desired, he truly needs to think before he speaks, but he made some promises and unlike many, he didn't forget them when the election was over. However, it is an imperfect world, so whatever was implemented didn't survive the politicians

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2019, 05:35 AM

the coalition pf racist and white evangelicals have coalesced behind

That's the most racially prejudiced statement I have seen on this board. I thought you were above such things, Tal, but I guess not. Very disappointing. "You voted for Trump? Well, you must be a racist white Christian." I suppose it couldn't have had anything to do with the corrupt little person the dems ran, or with policies such as economic growth, pro-Constitution fed judges, an approach that is pro-life, or advocating for free speech. Nah. Everyone who voted for Trump must surely be a racist Christian. I truly hope I have somehow misread your position, because it would certainly be a pathetic view. It's yet anther reason I'm glad I'm not a liberal democrat.

talaniman · Nov 26, 2019, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

That's the most racially prejudiced statement I have seen on this board. I thought you were above such things, Tal, but I guess not. Very disappointing. "You voted for Trump? Well, you must be a racist white Christian." I suppose it couldn't have had anything to do with the corrupt little person the dems ran, or with policies such as economic growth, pro-Constitution fed judges, an approach that is pro-life, or advocating for free speech. Nah. Everyone who voted for Trump must surely be a racist Christian. I truly hope I have somehow misread your position, because it would certainly be a pathetic view. It's yet anther reason I'm glad I'm not a liberal democrat.

Those are YOUR words not mine, I just stated a fact, a few facts amongst many, such as voter turnout, a transitioning population, a poor campaign by dems, voter purges and suppression, cyber interference by Vlad, and a few others but of course you over simplified it to your own narrative because I was fascinated by the demographics of the 2016 electorate? It's hard to even have a debate with a closed minded ultra sensitive conservative southerner who sees gains in conservative judges and anti abortions as a main credential, and can ignore the rest of the baggage we've seen for the last 3 years, like lying cheating and really dirty tricks.

The 2018 midterms should have given you fair warning that more things are on the minds of citizens beside repression of liberal policy fears, which lost repubs the House, and may well cost them senate as well, even if the dufus manages to survive his current opposition, and court rulings.

You cannot deny the support the dufus enjoys as part of his base that keeps elected repubs in line for his antics and behavior, because it's their base too essentially. So don't deny I made a specific distinction between racists, and white evangelicals while you draw the erroneous conclusion that I somehow lumped them together as racist white Christians. I did not, merely pointed out they backed the dufus rather strongly, and I found that rather a strange coalition, though I think it represents less than half of all repubs and there may be a sizable number who will look for better in the upcoming 2020 elections. Just a speculation and no reason to twist your nose in knots.

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2019, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

"You voted for Trump? Well, you must be a racist white Christian."

Sad to say, that's been my experience too during the past three years.

Vacuum7 · Nov 26, 2019, 09:58 AM

More Blacks will vote for Trump than they have for any other Republican ever before in 2020.....and, it is possible, that he will get even more than anyone thinks given the outrageously great Black employment numbers Trump has put up. Liberals tend to think that Blacks have to led around by the nose in order for them to understand what is good for them: THERE IS A VERY RASCIST ASSUMPTION AMONST LIBERALS THAT BLACKS HAVE TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO....and I have seen this demonstrated many times during my lifetime...….I can tell you that ideal is patently racist....Want to talk about Systemic Racism in the U.S., look no further than how liberals "handle" Blacks in this country: its demeaning as hell!