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jlisenbe · Dec 26, 2019, 06:29 PM

No I don't agree, but I dare you repubs to bring forth charges! This subject has been debunked as FALSE already, and was just a talking point for the right wing loonies that don't know better.

Why not bring charges against Joe? He is on video bragging about withholding funds appropriated by congress, and you say that is a crime. Why not bring charges? Because he's a dem?

Pretty dumb to ask for names since first hand knowledge testimony is rather formidable, the jails are full of those with 2nd hand testimony and 17 people testifying to the same FACTS are very formidable. You can't declare NO evidence while you HIDE evidence. Yes that's also illegal. Thought you knew.

Actually, second hand testimony is not allowed in court, and opinions about what a person thinks might have happened is also not allowed. So no, people are not in jail because of second hand testimony. 17 people testifying to "facts" is meaningless unless those people have evidence of a crime. Those 17 people had no evidence. Too bad.

paraclete · Dec 26, 2019, 06:46 PM

The second round of the demonrat circus will begin when ringmistress pelosi attempts to tame the lion

jlisenbe · Dec 26, 2019, 06:47 PM

The second round of the demonrat circus will begin when ringmistress pelosi attempts to tame the lion

Yep. Good description of this circus.

talaniman · Dec 27, 2019, 02:33 AM

jlisenbe · Dec 27, 2019, 05:34 AM

Great pics of Pelosi!

paraclete · Dec 27, 2019, 05:36 AM

Arnt they

talaniman · Dec 27, 2019, 08:30 AM

I thought they were perfect pictures of the dufus's true nature, an evil clown.

paraclete · Dec 27, 2019, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

I thought they were perfect pictures of the dufus's true nature, an evil clown.

You confuse Trump with the joker

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 03:58 AM

Depends on which hat he puts on. Doesn't matter, the confusion stops once he opens his big fat mouth, and watch the mice scurrying about trying not to get eaten by the swamp critters he surrounds himself with.

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 10:06 AM

Of course we have a lighter side of things.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 04:56 PM

Your cartoons fit perfectly into the comic book justice practiced by Pelosi and her herd.

Wondergirl · Dec 28, 2019, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Your cartoons fit perfectly into the comic book justice practiced by Pelosi and her herd.

So far she's doing everything correctly as per the U.S. civics class I had in high school.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 06:29 PM

So far she's doing everything correctly as per the U.S. civics class I had in high school.

Your civics class taught you that the Speaker of the House was supposed to hold on to articles of impeachment while she tried to manipulate the Senate into doing things her way? Wow. What a civics class that must have been.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

I didn't notice a mention of the SOTH in that clause.

Wondergirl · Dec 28, 2019, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Your civics class taught you that the Speaker of the House was supposed to hold on to articles of impeachment while she tried to manipulate the Senate into doing things her way?

That's not what's happening.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Um, and what's ol' Moscow Mitch up to meanwhile? Hmm.... (Good thing Nancy has five kids and understands sneakiness and brattiness.)

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Your civics class taught you that the Speaker of the House was supposed to hold on to articles of impeachment while she tried to manipulate the Senate into doing things her way? Wow. What a civics class that must have been.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

I didn't notice a mention of the SOTH in that clause.

Maybe she would have to be so cautious if two repubs the majority leader being one who publicly said not only that they would honor their oath to be impartial, but also work in lockstep with the WH. Ever see a jury work with defendants before while your blasting the speaker but ignoring the sycophants?

At least Murkowski stood up to express her disturbance at those antics.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 07:35 PM

said not only that they would honor their oath to be impartial, but also work in lockstep with the WH

That might be true if they had taken such an oath. I don't think that's the case. This is a political event, and they, just like Pelosi, are behaving in a political manner. How many dozens of your beloved dems in the House declared Trump guilty before the hearings even started and the pitiful excuses that passed for "evidence" were presented? Rather strangely, you never protested about that. You see? It's all about politics and the "We hate Trump" crowd.

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 07:45 PM

No secret that I think the dems have a great case, and the senate DOES take an oath to be impartial once they are sworn in by the cheif justice, unlike the house who takes no oath except to protect the constitution from enemies from without and within when they join congress just like everybody in the government.

Obviously we differ on investigations and evidence among many things. It's all good. Yes it's politics on that we do agree.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 07:54 PM

Except that those senators have not yet taken any oath, so they have no oath to honor at this point. Besides, how many democrat senators have said they believe Trump to be guilty? Have you been complaining about them?

https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mccon...mocrat-1479388

talaniman · Dec 28, 2019, 08:06 PM

You're probably right, all the senators will have a bias one way or another but we proceed with the process. I remember after Nixons landslide victory he was impeached without much repub support until the evidence changed almost everybody's mind and repubs told him so. He resigned. We'll see what happens brudda.

jlisenbe · Dec 28, 2019, 08:07 PM

until the evidence changed almost everybody's mind

Now there's a great idea. Maybe the dems should try presenting some real evidence.