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paraclete · Nov 17, 2019, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

All that might be true Vac, but the bottom line is there have been no compelling personalities to break through the dem/repub monopoly since Ross Peirot. He didn't win but he sure screwed Pappy Bush against Clinton.

Yes minor parties are very useful in disrupting the electoral process and often achieve the wrong result drawing off vital support

talaniman · Nov 18, 2019, 07:19 PM

One would assume any candidate for president in the general election is a suitable one but that sure isn't the case especially those 3rd party ones.

talaniman · Nov 20, 2019, 04:22 AM

BREAKING NEWS

Kurt Volcker testified before the Impeachment committee Tuesday, that Joe Biden had great integrity, and the claims against him are crap, as well as declaring Ukrainian election interference in 2016 is a LIE! Let's remember that Volcker, and Morrison are repub witnesses called by House repubs. This is different from his closed door testimony that the investigations wanted by the dufus from the Ukraine government were legitimate corruption probes.

Vindman, Williams, Volcker, and Morrison all testified the phone call to Zelenskiy was inappropriate and they reported it to the NSA counsel as such, bolstering the dem claim of bribery and extortion by the dufus. So where do repubs and dufus sycophants go from here?

Why, they keep hollering foul to the dems as they've been doing! What else can you do when there is no defense for the bad criminal dufus behavior.

Vacuum7 · Nov 20, 2019, 08:35 AM

Kurt Volcker is an old Republican hack from way back: Why in the world would you believe ANYTHING he had to say? Kurt Volcker wouldn't know "GREAT INTEGRITY" if "GREAT INTEGRITY" grew a mouth and four legs and walked up and bit him in his arse!

I find it funny that people will yield support to a despicable political hack like Kurt Volcker today when yesterday they would have condemned Kurt Volcker for being a bastard RIGHT WING LOONEY TUNER!

talaniman · Nov 20, 2019, 03:44 PM

Are you wingers ready to admit I was right yet? The guy in the WH is a lying cheating dufus that corrupts everything and everybody he puts his greedy hands on. Draining the swamp ain't the solution. We have a rat infestation.

Enough testimony let's INDICT!

paraclete · Nov 20, 2019, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Are you wingers ready to admit I was right yet? The guy in the WH is a lying cheating dufus that corrupts everything and everybody he puts his greedy hands on. Draining the swamp ain't the solution. We have a rat infestation.

Enough testimony let's INDICT!

Why involve yourselves in exercises in futility? Even if the Repelicans hate TRUMP they are not going to impeach him. No politician voluntarily lets the other party win. The Demonrats are doing this because they have no power to do anything else. Should the Repelicans yield to their inferior intellect? It is a bad idea. However bad Trump might be, they don't have a viable alternative

talaniman · Nov 20, 2019, 05:32 PM

Never played a team sport? Winning means everybody does their job. It doesn't matter what the senate does, but the House should just do it's job. Even still the team could lose against a better team, but you still have to give it your best shot don't you? Our system has such guidelines and there are always alternatives. That's why we have a prez, VICE prez, and order of succession for any contingency. One thing these hearings have borne out is the dufus keeps everybody in the dark about what he is doing, and with who and is pretty glib for a non experienced politician, but as a mob boss he is particularly skilled.

He would make a great dictator too.

Vacuum7 · Nov 20, 2019, 08:43 PM

Talaniman: How can Trump be both a "dufus", a glib politician, and a "skilled" crime boss all at the same time? Are these things, by definitions, mutually exclusive of one another?

I do think Trump is "instinctual" about things, life, in general: Known people like this before in my life....one of my four brothers has this "knack", he went through Vietnam "unscathed"....they were "More lucky than good" types but they always seemed to land upright.....I'm not that way but those that are always captured my imagination: Why were they that way? I think its because they are closer to their "animal instincts" than some of us.

paraclete · Nov 20, 2019, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Never played a team sport? Winning means everybody does their job. It doesn't matter what the senate does, but the House should just do it's job. Even still the team could lose against a better team, but you still have to give it your best shot don't you? Our system has such guidelines and there are always alternatives. That's why we have a prez, VICE prez, and order of succession for any contingency. One thing these hearings have borne out is the dufus keeps everybody in the dark about what he is doing, and with who and is pretty glib for a non experienced politician, but as a mob boss he is particularly skilled.

He would make a great dictator too.

Tal this is not a game, I think you americans pay too much attention to the "game". What do you mean make a dictator? He acts like a dictator, his rhetoric is like a dictator, make the country great, bomb, terror, threats, all that is missing is invasions

Vacuum7 · Nov 21, 2019, 05:26 AM

Trump acts like a dictator? That is a stretch.....How can you extrapolate what Trump does to a dictator? If he was a dictator he would go into the Impeachment chamber and slap the hell out of Little Adam Schiff while shutting the process down. Who has Trump bombed, say by comparison: Reagan bombed more, George H. Bush bombed more, Clinton bombed more, George W. Bush bombed more, Obama bombed more.....what are you talking about? "Make America Great" is a dictator's slogan? Really? Where is Trump's terror?

talaniman · Nov 21, 2019, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

Talaniman: How can Trump be both a "dufus", a glib politician, and a "skilled" crime boss all at the same time? Are these things, by definitions, mutually exclusive of one another?

I do think Trump is "instinctual" about things, life, in general: Known people like this before in my life....one of my four brothers has this "knack", he went through Vietnam "unscathed"....they were "More lucky than good" types but they always seemed to land upright.....I'm not that way but those that are always captured my imagination: Why were they that way? I think its because they are closer to their "animal instincts" than some of us.

It's really simple Vac, he is a salesman, that's how he makes a living whether its a casino, hotel, golf course, university, or his charity. Step right up folks for the greatest show on Earth! You have to admit he keeps both foes and supporters energized and engaged in either his demise, or his rise! Boils down to either you believe his lies, or you don't, and I've been saying he lies all the time, and some WANT to believe them.

Originally Posted by paraclete

Tal this is not a game, I think you americans pay too much attention to the "game". What do you mean make a dictator? He acts like a dictator, his rhetoric is like a dictator, make the country great, bomb, terror, threats, all that is missing is invasions

You don't have to have an invasion to be a dictator, or even bomb someone just get the power to stamp out all the opposition in your country. He does that with his daily diatribe of putting everyone down that opposes him.

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

Trump acts like a dictator? That is a stretch.....How can you extrapolate what Trump does to a dictator? If he was a dictator he would go into the Impeachment chamber and slap the hell out of Little Adam Schiff while shutting the process down. Who has Trump bombed, say by comparison: Reagan bombed more, George H. Bush bombed more, Clinton bombed more, George W. Bush bombed more, Obama bombed more.....what are you talking about? "Make America Great" is a dictator's slogan? Really? Where is Trump's terror?

No he won't go into these hearings and testify under oath, or let his main men testify either. Lying is what he does and NEVER under oath because that would be a blatant crime now wouldn't it?

paraclete · Nov 21, 2019, 11:01 PM

Tal; Trump now has his neck in a noose, but we both know the Senate won't kick out the stool, I expect they don't like lynchings.

Vac; as I pointed out Trump is channeling his inner Hitler, honestly; you would think he was using the same speechwriter, make ....... great again, If he drops 1 KT bombs I will drop 1000 KT bombs and wipe ...... off the map, we will win this war. need I go on, as I said, we don't have an invasion yet, I did say yet. and the only reason for that is Trump is distracted by disloyalty and impeachment

talaniman · Nov 22, 2019, 10:36 AM

That is part of the problem Clete, the dufus has been replacing skilled and experienced workers with people who are loyal to him and will do his bidding and that is the mark of a wanna be dictator who has to destroy and disrupt the functions of the existing structures and institutions before that can be accomplished.

Often this is done without the advise and consent of the congress, and the Ukraine is but one example.

paraclete · Nov 22, 2019, 01:32 PM

Yes Tal he believes himself to be invincible, to possess all wisdom, the title he seeks isn't dictator, it is almighty

talaniman · Nov 23, 2019, 06:20 AM

While the House gets it's report together for the judiciary commitee to form what charges will be filed you think the dufus can just be quiet? Naw that's impossible, but a whole lot of otehr things can surely be "leaked" about the dufus sycophants. I was shocked when I looked up CROWDSTRIKE a company the dufus wanted Zelenskiy to investigate was an AMERICAN cyber security firm that has a multitude of fortune 500 companies as clients, including the Republican National Committee.

Further evidence that the dufus doesn't know what he is talking about, or worse, he is determined to get Vlad off the hook for serial cyber attacks on several countries, most notably the US.

paraclete · Nov 23, 2019, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Further evidence that the dufus doesn't know what he is talking about, or worse,

“The evidence of his impeachable behavior at this point, in my view, is overwhelming," says the Fox News analyst.

How much more evidence do you need the media has the evidence to convict him and you don't need a House vote or a senate vote. Trump is guilty, but of what, since this isn't a court of law. I think he is guilty of being incredibly stupid, like he didn't know someone was watching, listening, waiting to trap him in an indiscretion

Vacuum7 · Nov 23, 2019, 07:14 PM

Paraclete: What indiscretion?

Believe me on this: Trump is way too smug! He is almost giddy....and I think that I know why:

1) The "Origins of the Russia Investigation" report is coming out from Barr
2) Inspector Horowitz's report is coming out
3) The Senate's "COUNTERSTRIKE" Impeachment Trial is being planned as I write this....The SENATE WILL CALL UP ALL THE IMPEACHMENT "WITNESSES" and Hunter Biden and OLD BIDEN and what they will do to them will be disgusting!

So, like always: You push Trump and he will pick up a baseball bat and bust your head....one day, the left will finally get this registered in their thick skulls: Trump will always have the last laugh.

Wondergirl · Nov 23, 2019, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

3) The Senate's "COUNTERSTRIKE" Impeachment Trial is being planned as I write this....

You know what that ("Counterstrike") is all about?

Vacuum7 · Nov 23, 2019, 08:33 PM

W.G.: The Senate Trial of the Congress' IMPEACHMENT will be a grand stage setting having little to nothing to do with Trump's guilt or innocence but more to do with the presentation of a platform to showcase the vast left wing conspiracy that was set in motion to take Trump's Presidency down. There are several Senators who are salivating in the anticipation of interrogating Hunter Biden and OLD Biden on the Senate floor in order to bring to light their dirty dealings in Ukraine. Additionally, there will be much more to come as the Senate Trial will surely have access to evidence gathered from the Attorney General's Office.

THIS SENATE TRIAL WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY! While I support the truth coming out, as well as the exposure or any conspiracy to overturn Trump's Presidency, I don't think the country needs this to Senate "Trial", outside of a Guilty or "Not Guilty" vote....all the "extra" grilling and bloodletting that will surely ensue as Repub Senators take "revenge" on the left will only serve to further divide the country: WE NEED HEALING RIGHT NOW, NOT MORE DEVISIVENESS!

Wondergirl · Nov 23, 2019, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

W.G.: The Senate Trial of the Congress' IMPEACHMENT will be a grand stage setting having little to nothing to do with Trump's guilt or innocence but more to do with the presentation of a platform to showcase the vast left wing conspiracy that was set in motion to take Trump's Presidency down. There are several Senators who are salivating in the anticipation of interrogating Hunter Biden and OLD Biden on the Senate floor in order to bring to light their dirty dealings in Ukraine. Additionally, there will be much more to come as the Senate Trial will surely have access to evidence gathered from the Attorney General's Office.

THIS SENATE TRIAL WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY! While I support the truth coming out, as well as the exposure or any conspiracy to overturn Trump's Presidency, I don't think the country needs this to Senate "Trial", outside of a Guilty or "Not Guilty" vote....all the "extra" grilling and bloodletting that will surely ensue as Repub Senators take "revenge" on the left will only serve to further divide the country: WE NEED HEALING RIGHT NOW, NOT MORE DEVISIVENESS!

So you don't know what it means.