[Athos]

Trump now orders an ally who they are permitted to enter their country. Netanyahu obeys.

[talaniman]

Netty owes him one, the dufus helped get him re elected, if he can stay out of jail, and if his enemies let him form a government. What a cluster. If there is a dirty deed to be done the dufus will do it.

[paraclete]

sorry to be dense on this one but bone-spur? Supporting Israel is not a negative. Israel has a right to exist and they should work it out with the Palestinians. What you have there at the moment is apartheid and it is difficult to see how it can be otherwise until militancy no longer exists

[Athos]

Bone-spur refers to Trump paying off a doctor to swear Trump had bone spurs and therefore could not serve in the military which at the time was heavily engaged in Vietnam. Trump's cowardice was especially flagrant in light of the heroism of McCain who did serve his country valiantly.

It's true Israel should be supported, but not in the way Trump tweeted this morning. He told Israel that two Congresswomen should not be allowed into Israel because they "hated Israel and hated Jews". These Congresswomen have criticized Israel but to Trump any criticism of him or his friend Netanyahu is forbidden. Trump has consistently shown himself to be totally unaware of the freedom to criticize. Netanyahu immediately kowtowed to Trump and proclaimed Israel would be closed to the Congresswomen. This may backfire badly on the Prime Minister.

[talaniman]

Israel has a right to defend itself but why would they want peace with the Palestinians when they can keep them penned up and keep expanding their own boundaries one settlement at a time. I mean that would piss me off if my neighbor kept moving the fence between us or worse I keep having to walk around his wall to where I was going. Can't we be good allies and not put up with this bull crap they've been pulling for decades?

I think it's disgraceful the dufus would make Nutty ban our congress people after they had said they could come, and then lie his butt off about it. Has any repub stood up to call out this outrage? Why is this deviant allowed to get away with this stuff by his own party? I never liked Nutty, anyway. He and the dufus are weak bullies, who know nothing about democracy or the freedom to dissent.

Hope he gets booted out, to jail with the dufus. They deserve each other.

[paraclete]

Bone-spur refers to Trump paying off a doctor to swear Trump had bone spurs and therefore could not serve in the military which at the time was heavily engaged in Vietnam. Trump's cowardice was especially flagrant in light of the heroism of McCain who did serve his country valiantly.

It's true Israel should be supported, but not in the way Trump tweeted this morning. He told Israel that two Congresswomen should not be allowed into Israel because they "hated Israel and hated Jews". These Congresswomen have criticized Israel but to Trump any criticism of him or his friend Netanyahu is forbidden. Trump has consistently shown himself to be totally unaware of the freedom to criticize. Netanyahu immediately kowtowed to Trump and proclaimed Israel would be closed to the Congresswomen. This may backfire badly on the Prime Minister.

I have no issue with a country denying entry to people who are hostile to it and it is a matter of sovereignty. Trump should have arranged for his thoughts to be presented in a less public way so as not to give ammunition to the anti Israel lobby.

You can say what you like within your own borders but elsewhere the rules are different and I'm sure Israel doesn't need more rabble rousers

It is the pleasure of the rich to arrange for their sons not to serve, if slavery still existed Trump could have sent his slave, but I wonder how his bone spurs are today, a painful foot no doubt which may account for the loud screams

[tomder55]

it is short sighted by both of them . Although the 2 Reps are clearly anti-Isreal ,promoting the BDS nonsense ;and

Rep. Tlaib’s promotion of a one state solution is ridiculous . Not allowing US Reps to visit the one real democracy in the region is a mistake Even AIPAC disagrees with the decision.

[Athos]

I have no issue with a country denying entry to people who are hostile to it and it is a matter of sovereignty. Trump should have arranged for his thoughts to be presented in a less public way so as not to give ammunition to the anti Israel lobby.

You can say what you like within your own borders but elsewhere the rules are different and I'm sure Israel doesn't need more rabble rousers

In yet another impeachable abuse of power, the President of the United States publicly colluded with a foreign power to obstruct elected representatives of the United States from performing their constitutional duties.

That foreign power receives billions for its defense voted by the Congress of those elected representatives.

[talaniman]

In yet another impeachable abuse of power, the President of the United States publicly colluded with a foreign power to obstruct elected representatives of the United States from performing their constitutional duties.

That foreign power receives billions for its defense voted by the Congress of those elected representatives.

I don't think I've heard it put so clearly and succinctly. Yet another example of the dufus ability to cause international chaos. That's the kind of stupid that can be dangerous, but typical DUFUS!

[paraclete]

In yet another impeachable abuse of power, the President of the United States publicly colluded with a foreign power to obstruct elected representatives of the United States from performing their constitutional duties.

That foreign power receives billions for its defense voted by the Congress of those elected representatives.

It is not their constitutional duty to go to another nation and rabble rouse. Americans have an overfull impression of their own importance and A representative has no official capacity to interfere in the affairs of another nation no matter what the foreign aid budget might be

[talaniman]

It is exactly their constitutional duty to see what we are spending our taxpayer dollars on. Rabble rousing and interfering in the affairs of others is the dufus and his Buddy Nutty's spin. Even our repubs and Jewish groups are blasting the dufus on this one. You defend the stupidity of those two racists rats?

[Athos]

I don't think I've heard it put so clearly and succinctly. Yet another example of the dufus ability to cause international chaos. That's the kind of stupid that can be dangerous, but typical DUFUS!

Thank you for the compliment but it isn't mine. I had trouble c/p the quote and I forgot to attribute it to its rightful author.

The author is Seth Abramson, a lawyer who has examined the whole Trump era as deeply as anybody and who has written two excellent books on the subject. I don't think I'm allowed to reveal his books here (rules of AMHD?) but a google search of the name should lead anyone interested to the material.

[tomder55]

sorry Clete gotta agree with Tal and Athos on this one . It is part of their oversight responsiblilities even if they are insincere. It is also stupid politically . These Reps are part of the radical left quartet call the "squad " .Anything that gives them more press and elevates their importance is a negative .

[tomder55]

Jonathan Tobin explains the issue well .

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...n-hurts-israel

[talaniman]

sorry Clete gotta agree with Tal and Athos on this one . It is part of their oversight responsiblilities even if they are insincere. It is also stupid politically . These Reps are part of the radical left quartet call the "squad " .Anything that gives them more press and elevates their importance is a negative .

It's not like the dufus is innocent in all this since he has actively cast them in that light for his own political purpose of providing his base with more fear fueled red meat. A typical dufus ploy to distract us and elevate himself by demeaning others. Just like he paints the dems as socialists/communists and open border lovers, while he loots the treasury and crashes his all so important great economy, that he brands as his own after Obama gave it to him.

Take away the deficit financed tax cuts and he hasn't done a darn thing, but blow smoke up repub butt. They love it! What a drama queen though over a women visiting her family she hasn't seen in a decade.

[talaniman]

Jonathan Tobin explains the issue well .

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...n-hurts-israel

A bit of to right leaning view from my perspective, but it's clear some of us dems just aint buying the dufus, and especially Nutty's spin, and haven't for a long time. I guess conservatives will stick together no matter the culture or country, but what's wrong with the real truth of the matter instead of lock step narrative of Israeli political agenda?

Tlaib isn't the only Palestinian who has been separated for years from their family. OCCUPATIONAL hazards on both sides and sure fits APARTIED to me despite the denials.

[tomder55]

Tlaib it turns out is a phony .She said she wanted to visit her dying grandmother . So Israel said she could visit for that purpose . She

had filed a humanitarian appeal to Israel, promising not to promote boycott activities and abide by restrictions while visiting her family in the West Bank.She said it could be her last chance to visit .

But when Israel granted her permission today . She quickly backed down. Clearly her hatred for Israel is greater than her love for family . But in truth it is that her supporters put pressure on her to turn down the visit .

[Wondergirl]

Tlaib it turns out is a phony .She said she wanted to visit her dying grandmother . So Israel said she could visit for that purpose . She

had filed a humanitarian appeal to Israel, promising not to promote boycott activities and abide by restrictions while visiting her family in the West Bank.She said it could be her last chance to visit .

But when Israel granted her permission today . She quickly backed down. Clearly her hatred for Israel is greater than her love for family . But in truth it is that her supporters put pressure on her to turn down the visit .

Tlaib later announced on Friday morning that going to the West Bank under Israel's non-boycotting conditions would stand against her beliefs.

"I have decided that visiting my grandmother under these oppressive conditions stands against everything I believe in – fighting against racism, oppression & injustice," she said on Twitter.

Plus, she probably doesn't want to be assassinated.

[Specter1]

I don't care much for the constant partisan bickering that has become the norm in US politics, and I definitely don't care for US interference in foreign affairs. Israel has nuclear weapons and one of the best armies our tax dollars can buy, so it is high time we cut them loose. I also think we should cut ALL foreign aid and concentrate on fixing the problems in our own country.

[tomder55]

because American isolationism has worked so well in the past .