[jlisenbe]

How's that working for you?

Pretty good. You should try it!!

[paraclete]

No need

[talaniman]

Did anyone of you catch the dufus admit to his lies about the Chinese paying the tariffs he imposed? If they are not then where is the money coming from to pay the farmers that are affected by those tariffs?

[Athos]

I caught that. He also said the tax cut for the "middle class"(?) was costing him 3-5 BILLION dollars!!! Of course, he still won't show his tax returns.

[talaniman]

How about that right wing loony from Iowa Steve King justifying removing the rape and incest exception from an abortion bill because humanity wouldn't be here without rape and incest. I gotta tell ya, while we holler about AOC, these nut jobs are going over the cliff. I've seen drunks that make more sense.

The dufus has drove them crazier than they ever were.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/08/s...d-incest-would

[jlisenbe]

How about that right wing loony from Iowa Steve King justifying removing the rape and incest exception from an abortion bill because humanity wouldn't be here without rape and incest. I gotta tell ya, while we holler about AOC, these nut jobs are going over the cliff. I've seen drunks that make more sense.

The dufus has drove them crazier than they ever were.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/08/s...d-incest-would

Thank goodness you get your news for such an imminently neutral website as "Crooks and Liars". I had to laugh at that.

If you listen to the video, I don't think King was seriously trying to suggest that the entire population of the earth is here because of rape and incest. But I guess it would be much better if he agreed with virtually all democrats that abortion should be legal for any and all reasons, including gender and race selection, and should be legal all the way up until the moment of birth, and with some democrats, even for some period of time after the child is born. Yes, that would be a much more sensible position.

[talaniman]

If you check that was but one source derived from several sources reporting the same thing. It was a stupid argument you cannot defend and another example how you alt right thumpers try to subvert the system. You want to build your coalition on the social issues that's fine but just as you have done brought our most extreme left ideas practiced by a few so I have highlighted the right extremes utterances also. Most of us pro or con is more moderately in the middle and just as you hate to be broad brushed and pigeon holed with ultra extreme ideas and antics, so do us sensible moderates.

A loony is a loony, right or left to me, so at least act like you know the difference. Should we be debating the merits of rounding up supposedly illegal migrants at work in your area and the place is still open for business?

[jlisenbe]

If you check that was but one source derived from several sources.

Yes, but it was the one you chose to link. At any rate, I listened to the video rather than trust your ultra left wing site.

Should we be debating the merits of rounding up supposedly illegal migrants at work in your area and the place is still open for business?

Why do you think they are "supposedly" illegal? If they are here illegally, then they are illegal. End of story. As to the plants, they did reopen but with only a small workforce and at a much reduced rate. I wonder how many healthy people there are living around those plants who are getting welfare and doing nothing? Why not put them to work?

[talaniman]

They had to release hundreds until they can be processed, but my point was that shouldn't the owners be held accountable for hiring illegals, and minors?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-6...ay-2019-08-08/

Is CBS a left wing organization? Wonder why the state welfare authority never tried to get those lazy Ms. welfare people jobs at those plants that have been there for decades.

I intentionally used the left wing source that got it from the mainstream reporting.

[jlisenbe]

They had to release hundreds until they can be processed, but my point was that shouldn't the owners be held accountable for hiring illegals, and minors?

I think that's a good point.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-6...ay-2019-08-08/

Is CBS a left wing organization? Wonder why the state welfare authority never tried to get those lazy Ms. welfare people jobs at those plants that have been there for decades.

A good question.

[talaniman]

Here's another one to think about. While the dufus gets everyone riled up about the brown invasion, he and Moscow Mitch have been lifting sanctions and allowing Russian business to invest in America, specifically in Kentucky, but are planning to expand into 8 other states with poor regions of the country.

What's wrong with that picture.

[paraclete]

Here's another one to think about. While the dufus gets everyone riled up about the brown invasion, he and Moscow Mitch have been lifting sanctions and allowing Russian business to invest in America, specifically in Kentucky, but are planning to expand into 8 other states with poor regions of the country.

What's wrong with that picture.

Actually, not much, investment is investment. You have the ability to prevent subversion, so all you really need to do is make sure there is reciprocal investment

[talaniman]

Would you let mobsters, criminals and dictators invest in your businesses? Of course you wouldn't. You know how that ends once you let them get a foot in the door. with a 40% ownership stake. They have already threatened to nix the deal if any kind of review is done of the particulars. That's not a good sign that everything is above board. I mean common sense here. A deal that the dufus and Moscow Mitch put together without purview of the congress with an adversary? I ask again what's wrong with that picture?

So NO investments are not just investments.

[jlisenbe]

Kind of like HC allowing the sale of uranium assets in the U.S. to Russia???

[paraclete]

Kind of like HC allowing the sale of uranium assets in the U.S. to Russia???

The capitalists are complaining about capitalism. America for the americans, I'm all for it

[talaniman]

Kind of like HC allowing the sale of uranium assets in the U.S. to Russia???

Unlike this deal, the uranium deal went through the proper process. Look it up.

[jlisenbe]

Unlike this deal, the uranium deal went through the proper process. Look it up.

What was improper about it? CNN seemed to describe it as being done according to law.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/busin...ill/index.html

[talaniman]

More to the story

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e39_story.html

With strong Republican support, the House on Jan. 14 overwhelmingly rejected the administration plan to lift sanctions, 362 to 53. But the effort failed in the Senate, thanks in part to McConnell and strong lobbying efforts.

[jlisenbe]

So like I said, it was done legally. You might disagree with it, but it was not illegal. Besides that, the Russkies are now minority owners of a large aluminum mill in KY employing a lot of Americans. So far I have not seen the down side.

[talaniman]

If you say so. We'll see.