[Wondergirl]

JL to Athos: The more you write, the more you reveal you do not have a high regard for the Bible.

...which really means, "The more you write, the more you reveal you do not have a high regard for my interpretation of the Bible."

[talaniman]

Yep. Record low unemployment is a sure sign of insanity. Trump managed to do in about eighteen months what Obama could not do in 96 months. We could use some more of that craziness.

The sad part of this deal is that the dems in congress are so intent on trying to impeach Trump for anything they can make up, they are not dealing with serious issues. Social Security will be in the red within ten or fifteen years. Not talked about. We continue to run ridiculous deficits. Don't hear about it. Medical costs continue to skyrocket. Not talked about. I found a receipt yesterday where my grandmother spent five days in the hospital in 1949. Cost? 89 dollars TOTAL. Now it would be a thousand times that. These are the things we should be addressing. Instead, we talk about supposed collusion with the Russkies. Pitiful, and it is not much better for the repubs who still control the senate but propose and do next to nothing.

I would agree completely with that.

Clearly you delude yourself as FACT is the good economy is a product of years of good economic policy despite your own fiction that it was no big deal when the banks destroyed our finances and we were bleeding jobs everywhere. You also delude yourself with your denial of another FACT that despite your blasting dems for investigating the lies of the dufus, you neglect repubs failing to address those very issues of which you speak, and they have had the power to do so since 2011. Yeah you talk a lot of my name calling, but have enough of your own to account for, but of course you are unable to admit your part in the failures of your party to make sound policy either.

So thanks for proving my point that righties have lost their freaking mind, and sunk to the most insane and crazy talking points I have ever heard. Sad that you believe it, sadder that you think everyone else should too! Feel free to keep talking and making my point for me.

[jlisenbe]

the good economy is a product of years of good economic policy

Sure is funny how the economy did not take off and grow effectively until Obama left office. What a strange coincidence. Stop drinking the kool aid.

repubs failing to address those very issues of which you speak, and they have had the power to do so since 2011

Remember when the republicans tried to take a stand in 2013 and we ended up with no budget and much of the fed government shut down? Remember how Obama and his friends, the national media, placed all the blame on the republicans? Remember any of that? Remember how your hero, Obama, nearly doubled the national debt in only eight years?

But I will still largely agree with you. The repubs should have declared a road to a balanced budget and put their rear ends on the line in the pursuit of it. They were too fearful to do it, just like the dems are now.

[talaniman]

Are you crazy? Repubs still hold all the power to pass stuff and are stalling the dems passing solutions on the very issues of which you still speak. The only claim to fame repubs had after 2011 was repeal and replace of which they failed to repeal, and we never got the replace so nice try at spin the failures of repubs.

Sure is funny how the economy did not take off and grow effectively until Obama left office. What a strange coincidence. Stop drinking the kool aid.

Obviously whatever you are drinking has you loopy. Sure repubs juiced the game making it look like the economy took off after the dufus got here with those rich guy tax cuts, but main street still struggles, and all of us are paying for this trade war with everybody.

Be glad when you sober up from your dufus election party.

[jlisenbe]

Repubs still hold all the power to pass stuff

I'm sane enough to know that the dems have control of the House and the House is the first source for all revenue bills. You didn't know that?

but main street still struggles, and all of us are paying for this trade war with everybody.

Absolute lunacy. Average wages, which barely grew at all with Obama, are up substantially. You need to become better informed.

[talaniman]

Wrong on both counts since you had house and senate for nearly 8 years and did nothing with it while the loss of the house in 2018 gave it to dems for the last few months and many bills have been passed only to die in Slick mitch's senate. One of the consequences of the house changing hands was the states raising the mimimum wage while the private sector is lagging behind both rising prices and those darn taxes. So don't try to spin iy like you and the dufus have something to crow about, you don't and what little has been done is despite the dufus not because of him.

My advice is to save the temprary tax break you may be enjoying because repubs always screw the money up and the dems always clean up your mess after exposing your lies and exaggerations about how great you are and how much you have done for everybody. I've laid out the evidence of my case since you got here and before so try that with an uninformed sheeple because homey don't play your game.

Neither of us is completely right or wrong in truth so get with the program, and get off that right wing loony noise machine.

[waltero]

Neither of us is completely right or wrong in truth so get with the program, and get off that right wing loony noise machine.

I would say you best get on "that right wing loony noise machine". If you can't beat 'Em, join 'Em!
Hard Left went off the rails. You are now taking a Hard Right...Wild ride indeed.

The dufus in the WH has made the case that conservatives have lost their freaking minds.

Obama and Hillary have been trying to point out that fact before he even entered the WH...Lookie over there!
Stop looking back.

America was tired of a defunct Obama/Hillary administration. Youz people should get over it.
With Israel for us who can stand against us ;-)

[jlisenbe]

Show me the bills the House has passed to balance the budget and we'll have something to talk about. Until then, you're just spouting left wing noise.

[talaniman]

OMG, the budget hasn't been balanced but once in history, and you expect the dems to do it after a few months? Why didn't your repubs balance the darn thing in their years of full control, or did they even try? Then you could gloat, and I would have to just shut up. Fat chance of that. You don't get to call foul after failing yourself. A right wing tactic you loonies just love to pull.

I tell YOU what, show me the bills that repubs passed to balance the budget under Bush, Obama, or Dufus. Then we can talk.

[jlisenbe]

OMG, the budget hasn't been balanced but once in history, and you expect the dems to do it after a few months? Why didn't your repubs balance the darn thing in their years of full control, or did they even try?

The last time it was balanced, I think 98 and 99, we had a republican congress and a dem pres who worked together to get the job done. What a novel idea!!

[talaniman]

We agree there. Wonder if we agree on why they don't work together now?

[waltero]

We agree there.

NO! I won't allow it. I like it better when the two of you argue...Now Argue Damn you!
Obama and Hillary had it all figured out. Why did Trump have to get involved and mess everything up...WHY, WHY, WHYYYY!
Don't forget that Trump is a lying, Backstabbing Dufus while Obama and his side kick were Hornswoggled out of office. It's not fair just not fair.

[talaniman]

Patience Hoppergrass, it's early yet. Go get a dog off the grill.

[jlisenbe]

Patience Hoppergrass, it's early yet. Go get a dog off the grill.

That one made me laugh!

They don't cooperate because politics has become so toxic and the two sides are so completely apart on policy.

[paraclete]

NO! I won't allow it. I like it better when the two of you argue...Now Argue Damn you!
Obama and Hillary had it all figured out. Why did Trump have to get involved and mess everything up...WHY, WHY, WHYYYY!
Don't forget that Trump is a lying, Backstabbing Dufus while Obama and his side kick were Hornswoggled out of office. It's not fair just not fair.

Politics is not fair, that there should be people who dare to disagree with socialism is just incredible, don't those idiots know we just want to make things better for them, help them to have health care they can pay for, help them to be relieved of the burden of spending their money on essentials

[talaniman]

Stick the socialism label on anything and make it a bad thing. Ain't mass manipulation grand?

[jlisenbe]

Yeah. I mean, see how well it worked in Venezuela.

[paraclete]

mass manipulation, you mean when the system doesn't work the way you want it to?

[talaniman]

Yeah. I mean, see how well it worked in Venezuela.

What do you expect from self serving incompetence. Has nothing to do with the label you put on it. Dysfunctional is dysfunctional.

mass manipulation, you mean when the system doesn't work the way you want it to?

No, when the system is rigged no matter who runs it. Top down is not efficient nor effective when the top skims the cream off and leaves nothing.

[jlisenbe]

What do you expect from self serving incompetence.

Self serving competence produces capitalism. Self serving incompetence produces a welfare state, socialism, and excuse-making.

Top down is not efficient nor effective when the top skims the cream off and leaves nothing.

You've got to drop drinking the kool aid. The top 5% of income earners in the U.S. earn 34% of the income but pay almost 60% of fed income tax. You better be glad for those people or your share (and mine) would be much higher.

Might add that amongst the world's nations, the U.S. currently ranks fourth in average wages, behind only the very small nations of Luxembourg, Sweden, and Iceland. We are far ahead of Germany, U.K., France, Japan, and even Norway and Finland, and those countries pay a much higher percentage of their income into taxes than we do. Yes, we are even far ahead of the Aussies. So we should probably stop our whining and thank God every day that we have the prosperity we have. Possibly our biggest problem is we do not appreciate what we have.