[jlisenbe]

Do you mean the consent decrees a school district entered into? Wonder who squealed?

Was forced to enter into. It was total nonsense.

[talaniman]

According to my own sources and news reporting there were several complaints to the fed after nothing was done by the county, or school district, cops, or courts dating back years. From the lawsuit which included the school district, cops, and courts...

The department issued findings on Aug. 10, 2012 after a comprehensive investigation that began in December 2011. The department found reasonable cause that the defendants were violating Section 14141 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which prohibits a pattern or practice of deprivation of civil rights in the administration of juvenile justice . In its findings letter, the department stated its willingness to engage in meaningful negotiations to remedy the identified violations, but defendants did not timely engage in such negotiations.

That's almost a year of investigating. Hardly nonsense if you were a parent or affected student of discriminatory policies beneath a thin veneer of discipline.

[jlisenbe]

That's almost a year of investigating. Hardly nonsense if you were a parent or affected student of discriminatory policies beneath a thin veneer of discipline.

It was the typical federal idiocy. In a district that is 90% minority and led/staffed by minority individuals, they found the amazing conclusion that minority kids were more likely to be disciplined. But even if they had a valid conclusion, the "solution" was complete and total nonsense that resulted in schools that could not be properly run. Should, for instance, a student call a teacher a "", the teacher was supposed to correct the student and call the parent after school. You cannot run a school in an environment like that. In my day, and I suspect in yours, I would have feared for my life if I had used that word at a teacher. And like I said, the district's state testing score for this past year was an F. Great job, federal government!

[talaniman]

Yeah the scores are deplorable, but the lawsuits and consent decrees were brought about by unwillingness to negotiate a solution to correcting a violation of law. It's a matter of public information. The high school in question got a low grade, but compared to the other 241 high schools they rank in the middle of the pack not at the bottom.

You blame the feds for that failure when the whole state is shaky?

[jlisenbe]

The high school in question got a low grade, but compared to the other 241 high schools they rank n the middle of the pack not at the bottom.

You need to learn how to do research. That high school ranks 210th out of 233 high schools which is about where they have been for three years. That's the middle of the pack??? Really???

The district itself ranks 121st out of 134. It's a sad drop for district that just twenty years ago was considered a very solid district.

https://www.schooldigger.com/go/MS/s...67/school.aspx

The whole state is far from shaky. There are many high performing schools in our state.

Again, thanks to the incompetent dingbats in the DOJ and SCLC.

[talaniman]

Your data is more up to date

https://www.piqosity.com/2016/09/28/...-schools-2017/

The kids in Columbus, Mississippi are clearly smart. However, the 89% rest of the state is struggling to prepare for college, but they nonetheless aspire to go to Mississippi State University; these are the key takeaways from the ACT scores of Mississippi’s graduating class of 2017.

Your data shows no different, but a continuing trend toward underperformance for higher learning as a state. It's been that way a long time, long enough to stop blaming the feds for your failures. The feds didn't make you a poor state full of poor people and breaking the law in the name of discipline won't change that.

[jlisenbe]

Your data shows no different, but a continuing trend toward underperformance for higher learning as a state. It's been that way a long time, long enough to stop blaming the feds for your failures.

Once again you are imagining what I said. My comment was about a particular district and the incredibly stupid settlement forced upon them by the feds. You are speaking of the state as a whole. That was not my issue.

Your data was ACT scores. Not a terrible choice, but not all seniors take the ACT as it is not free. State testing scores, which are mandatory for all students and are given free, are a better choice for comparison. Not, of course, that anyone would ever pay for the wonderful privilege of taking that test.

As to the state as a whole, we have made more progress than most states on the only test that compares states which is NAEP. We are still not at the national average, but we are closed the gap considerably.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/pr...-2017R3&sfj=NP

[talaniman]

Okay let's get back to that,

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ights-children

If you can abide by such a policy on your own citizen kids, its no wonder you can abide by the humanitarian crisis on our southern border. Guards, guns and cages, instead of counsellors, and social workers, and doctors? You seem to have a pattern of blaming the least and punishing them for it.

[jlisenbe]

Yeah. The DOJ said it, so it just has to be true.

[talaniman]

Denial noted, as I note all your denials of fact. If it is true wouldn't that be an act of despicable portions though?

[jlisenbe]

If it is true wouldn't that be an act of despicable portions though?

Well, I would have to believe, first of all, that a district led by black administrators and employing many black teachers would be exercising discrimination against black students, which should strike any thinking person as a pretty suspicious accusation. Then I would have to ignore the involvement of the SCLC which is an utterly useless and corrupt organization. Then I would have to forget my own knowledge of the situation, of young people, for instance, that could not be visited in detention centers as they would throw human waste at anyone who happened to walk by and who were an absolute danger to other students on campus. So you can go ahead and live in your dream world where perfectly honorable young people were being cruelly incarcerated, but you will be living out a fantasy.

Now to be fair, there were some school policies which needed to be changed, which is true in most places, but the resolution of the situation by the non-thinking DOJ was atrocious and is destroying what was, at one time, a good school district. I suspect you won't agree with that since it does not fit your political narrative, but it is true nonetheless as is shown by test scores from the past three years.

[tomder55]

Joe Biden keeps digging a deeper hole for himself and his campaign. He won't last and that is not good for his party which has been taken over by loonies .
https://nypost.com/2019/07/05/joe-bi...e-for-himself/

[talaniman]

The debate format isn't much better than the repubs TBH, but I've seen these bumps go back and forth until hopefuls run out of money. Dems better get on their game for what promises to be rabid repubs opposition once the field gets whittled down. Joe better get the kinks out soon, Cuomo can't save him.

[tomder55]

We are between a rock and a hard place. We have Trump and no great conservative Democrats to challenge him . The Dem clown car will take out Biden ,and we will be left with the choice of voting for candidates who have gone beyond fringe socialism or status quo,

[talaniman]

Seriously? I doubt that since the current field of nominees doesn't have a loony lying cheating dufus in it. That includes YOUR fav. Oh you meant a conservative? Naw none of those on our side. Hold your nose for a more moderate, which is the likely out come. have heart, I may have to vote for Bernie which would require ME to hold my nose UGH!

[tomder55]

Bernie is old news . He will not survive .

[talaniman]

Whew!!