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    Feb 27, 2018, 01:40 AM
    The Greatest Lie Ever Told
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    Donald Trump, the man who never did a good thing for any other soul in his life, the youth who developed a case of Sudden Onset Bone Spurs when the Vietnam draft rolled around but who was miraculously cured again once the threat of draft was over, the man who is regularly sent into a rage by the smallest of criticisms, the man whose signature headstyle is a decades-long battle to hide a receding hairline, the man who has not so much as held a press conference for over a year due to his crippling fear that reporters will ask unpleasant questions, says he probably would have saved your dead children, America. And we now have a new greatest lie ever told.


    "I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon," the president told a meeting of state governors at the White House.


    For the record, the list of things Donald Trump has been frightened of include, as far as we can tell, garden steps; tame eagles; reporters; networks other than Fox News; criticism; what America's porn stars have to say about him; and a stiff Florida breeze. The man regularly opines on the need for stiffer laws to protect himself from people insulting him; the evidence he is going to go a-serpentining into a spray of bullets is vanishingly small, compared to the evidence he might, say, sell Alaska to the Russians for three Big Macs and a picture of himself in a Russian magazine.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 03:19 AM
    " the man who never did a good thing for any other soul in his life" - you can't know that.

    "I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon," the president told a meeting of state governors at the White House." - You don't know that he wouldn't have.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 03:38 AM
    I'm not holding my breathe that any lawmaker will do anything to make positive changes. They are good at running out the clock until the latest outcry dies down, and it's back to the AGENDA or what THEY want. So far all we have are declarations and sound bites, scandals and disasters.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 05:43 AM
    Gee... and certain Canadians can't find fault in Trudeau? When that guys a walking talking joke to even most other Canadians (in fact to almost ALL Canadians NOT in Quebec).
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    Feb 27, 2018, 06:06 AM
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    Hi smoothy, let me take issue with your caption
    The Greatest Lie Ever Told
    I don't think it has been told yet, however that Trump should dare to suggest he has the heroism of a first respondor, the man has no morals and demonstrates once again what an idiot he is. Is he competing with Putin and wanted a bare chested display? All we saw was how over stuffed his gut is
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    Feb 27, 2018, 10:52 AM
    Clete... I forgot where it is but elsewhere this past week I saw a posted photo of an article in the NYTimes where Trump confronted and ran off a Mugger with a ball bat years ago. He's not the coward the people on the left try to make him out to be. They play from the "when you have nothing...you make stuff up" rulebook.

    I have some VERY left wing friends in the Vancouver area, who absolutely can't stand Trudeau because the Frenchie separatists are who put him in office. not the rest of the country.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 11:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver2011 View Post
    " the man who never did a good thing for any other soul in his life" - you can't know that.

    Of course, I can. Anybody can. Just watch him these past years. He completely lacks any sense of empathy. It's part of his mental disability.


    "I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon," the president told a meeting of state governors at the White House." - You don't know that he wouldn't have.

    Of course, I know that. He's the biggest blowhard in the history of the US presidency. Do you deny that?
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    Feb 27, 2018, 01:32 PM
    It just when you make statements based on conjecture, it weakens the argument in my humble opinion.

    I've never not voted for the Conservative agenda but in 2016 I did not. It was a big decision for me because I take pride in my vote. I still voted, just not for President (note - I would never vote for Hillary or a democrat). Trump is too divisive for my tastes. But he has done pretty well for the economy thus far. This economy and it's outlook is far better than the socialism we had for the past 8 years.

    And why does everything have to be so political. I remember a time when comedians were funny, singers sang songs, actors acted, and school children went to school. It's exhausting to watch the news nowadays.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 02:45 PM
    Got some of the details wrong in previous post....but found it.

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    Feb 27, 2018, 02:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver2011 View Post
    It just when you make statements based on conjecture, it weakens the argument in my humble opinion.
    Statements based on years and years of facts are what supports conjecture and strengthens the argument, not weakens it. That's how logic and rational thought processes work.

    I would never vote for ...... a democrat).
    Revealing, and spoken like a true ideologue - a mindless position eliminating all future possibilities. Now your humble opinion is not so humble, is it?

    But he has done pretty well for the economy thus far.
    Any economic growth is the result of 8 years of Obama fixing what the Republicans mismanaged in the first place. Trump's numbers simply continue what his predecessor started. Even Republican economists agree to that. It is frightening how ignorant conservatives are about the economy.


    This economy and it's outlook is far better than the socialism we had for the past 8 years.
    What Trump has done so far is grant a huge windfall to the wealthy while claiming it is for the middle class. Another whopper of a lie! By "socialism" I presume you mean the bailouts begun by Bush Jr BEFORE Obama took office. Your far-right crowd didn't call it socialism when Bush did it - only when Obama continued the exact same process. Then you changed your tune. Is it any wonder the Republicans are a failed party? Led by a madman?


    And why does everything have to be so political. I remember a time when comedians were funny, singers sang songs, actors acted, and school children went to school. It's exhausting to watch the news nowadays.
    If you long for the days when it was all singing and dancing, and regret all the troublesome news, then leave the well-being of your country when it is in serious danger to those who are not afraid to withstand the heat in the kitchen.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 03:06 PM
    yes I recall that incident when he pursued the bat wielding mugger .

    The Ellis Island Medals of Honor embody the spirit of America in their celebration of patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity. They recognize individuals who have made it their mission to share with those less fortunate their wealth of knowledge, indomitable courage, boundless compassion, unique talents and selfless generosity; all while maintaining the traditions of their ethnic heritage as they uphold the ideals and spirit of America. As always, NECO remains dedicated to the maintenance and restoration of America’s greatest symbol of its immigrant history, Ellis Island.
    Ellis Island Medals of Honor
    Trump was awarded the Medal in 1986.

    Trump twice was honored by Jesse Jackson's Raibow Push for
    help offer a way to get African Americans into corporate America and improve their communities through building projects and jobs.

    As far as women goes ;
    Barbara Res was his project manager on many of his
    construction projects
    , including
    Trump
    Tower in Manhattan. There are more examples I'll cite later
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    Feb 27, 2018, 03:13 PM
    "Revealing, and spoken like a true ideologue - a mindless position eliminating all future possibilities. Now your humble opinion is not so humble, is it?"

    I vote for the platform, which was very difficult in 1996 when it was Dole and in 2008 when it was McCain. 2016 I just couldn't in good conscious vote for Trump.

    "If you long for the days when it was all singing and dancing, and regret all the troublesome news, then leave the well-being of your country when it is in serious danger to those who are not afraid to withstand the heat in the kitchen."

    You are misrepresenting what I said, a la CNN & MSNBC. But that is fine, since we both recognize that with the media it's not about reporting the news, it's about making the news.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 03:18 PM
    He probably was a better guy back in the day, but he has become a lying, cheating, racist bully.

    And a DUFUS!
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    Feb 27, 2018, 03:53 PM
    And that hair. Oh my goodness...
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    Feb 27, 2018, 04:31 PM
    He probably was a better guy back in the day,
    you guys do this stuff all the time . McCain was a favorite until he became the candidate . Then the left mercilessly trashed and demonized him . Then he lost and again became the Libs favorite Repubic . Trump singlehandedly desegregated Palm Beach when he sued the city to allow Blacks and Jews into the formerly segregated Mar A Lago. He paid to ensure a Mexican boy would get a college education when he found out the mother was terminally ill. He sent his plane full of special medical equipment to fly an ill Jewish boy for treatment when he found out no airline would do it .
    All you know is the attacks by the drones at CNN and MSNBC .
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    Feb 27, 2018, 06:52 PM
    John McCain has been a favorite of mine for MANY decades, along with Orin Hatch, before he got old a senile, and there have been others over the years. I don't make my choices according to CNN or anybody else, so don't lump me in with the sheeple please. This is a hyper-partisan tribal time Tom, but make no mistake about my disgust for The Dufus. That doesn't come from TV news either, it comes from what he does and says and how he does it.

    He is a lying, cheating, racist, bully, and a BIG DUFUS. If you don't know, just remember I told you so. Nothing personal.

    Heck Tom even you can't keep up with all the scandals from his year in office! His son in law can't even get a clearance to keep viewing classified information! I suppose that's fake news to, along with the statement about he hasn't authorized his intel agencies to stop Vlad from messing in our elections! I know more fake news.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 07:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    make no mistake about my disgust for The Dufus. That doesn't come from TV news either, it comes from what he does and says and how he does it.
    "When a person tells you who he is, believe him!" ~paraphrase from a quote by Maya Angelou. And Trump certainly has told us -- and daily tells us -- who he is!
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    Feb 27, 2018, 08:35 PM
    he hasn't authorized his intel agencies to stop Vlad from messing in our elections!
    What does that even mean ? He needs to give them specific instructions ? Tell them to stop the pajama boys ? The emperor knew for a long time about Russian activities . He waited until way after the election to do anything .

    Dan Coats ,Adm Rogers ,Mike Pompeo ,Rex Tillerson and FBI chief Wray have all testified about what Russian activities they know of and what they assume the Russians will try to do . Pompeo testified that they(CIA) will "push back" in a way to ensure the Russians don't have a great impact .

    We need to make a real effort to beef up cyber security across the board . But as usual ;your side's hatred of Trump has clouded your eyes from the real cyber threat .The Chinese have been much more active in all aspects of cyber warfare against us and we have willingly let them infiltrate or infrastructure both public and private .
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    Feb 27, 2018, 09:06 PM
    We need to make a real effort to beef up cyber security across the board . But as usual ;your side's hatred of Trump has clouded your eyes from the real cyber threat .The Chinese have been much more active in all aspects of cyber warfare against us and we have willingly let them infiltrate or infrastructure both public and private .
    I think all this means is you don't understand the game. All this cyber stuff is for milleniels. Sure older people use Facebook and Twitter, etc but few understand the real power of it. It is doubtful that Russians having social media accounts made the best use of them. Obama made good use of it but Trump, well who knows.

    But cyber attacks, deniel of service attacks, well, this is the stuff of esponage and all they have done is prove the possibility and wait the appropriate moment
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    Feb 28, 2018, 05:29 AM
    Think this stuff never happened before Trump got elected? Think again. Its been going on for a long, long time. Talk to the admin of any moderately or more popular website and they will concur having had to deal with the very same thing. You don't have to take the word of any mostly clueless "journalist" or talking head on tv.

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