[tomder55]

Stefan Halper ..Former classmate of Bubba Clinton at Oxford who had close ties to the Clintoons. His father in law is Ray Cline ,who was a CIA analyst for years . Let me ask you ; the claim now is that they had to place an informant inside the Trump campaign (they don't deny it anymore ) for Trump's protection from Russia ....Did they also place an informant in the Evita campaign for her protection from Russia ? Did they run a sting inside Evita's campaign like they did to Papadopoulos ;luring him to London to do paid research ? Why did he offer his foreign policy expertise to former Trump campaign co-chair Clovis if not to spy on Trump's campaign ?
The code name for his operation against the Trump campaign was named'Crossfire Hurricane ' . The name comes from the Rolling Stone's lyrics in 'Jumping Jack Flash ' ,but the reference comes from the Penny Marshall movie 'Jumping Jack Flash' in which a bank office comes to the aid of a British Spy being chased by the KGB. In other words ,the code name refers to former Brit spy Christopher Steele who's Russian ties allegedly linked Trump campaign operatives and Trump himself to Russia . His salacious and unverified allegations were then used as an excuse to secure FISA warrants and otherwise to spy on the Trump campaign . But the narrative didn't wash so they modified the story to say that the warrants came from Halper's contacts with Carter Page and Papadopoulos .
You are right about one thing . He wasn't really an informant . He was more like an agent provocateur, whose job was to ask leading questions to get Trump campaign advisers to say things that would support evidence that supported the predetermined narrative , that the Trump campaign was in collusion with the Russians to steal the election. Halper’s job was to induce inexperienced Trump campaign figures to say things that corroborated the Steele dossier . Halper’s fishing expedition came up with nothing to suggest the Steele dossier was true. But it did put Papadopoulos in legal jeopardy when Mueller was able to pin some process crimes on him. And still after over 2 years of this nonsense ,Mueller has found nothing to suggest that Trump and the Russians colluded to take over the White House.
Questions to be asked ...Was Halper the only one paid by the FBI to infiltrate the Trump campaign ? Under whose authority were they spying on a political campaign? Did FBI and DOJ leadership sign off? Did FBI director James Comey and AG Loretta Lynch know about it? What about other senior Obama administration officials? CIA Director John Brennan? Did the emperor know the FBI was spying on a presidential campaign? Did Evita know? What about her chairman John Podesta?
'It’s a gas, gas, gas!'

[talaniman]

It was more an INTERVEIW than an embedding of a spy INSIDE the campaign. How do you conflate the two. Unless you have evidence not made public. Mueller does no doubt, and he ain't talking. Just your boy Rudy for your boy Trump, and as always you filling the blanks with some WHOPPERS!

Must be a New York thing!

[paraclete]

You are right about it being gas Tom

[tomder55]

Tal Halper indeed did try to infiltrate the Trump campaign by touting his foreign policy expertise to Clovis as I already pointed out .It wasn't an interview . He conducted a sting operation against Page and especially

Papadopoulos ,who he lured to London under false premises while he pumped him for information about rumors that

Papadopoulos heard about Evita emails. He did this only to build a false case for justifying the FEMA surveillance of the Trump campaign . The Justice Dept IG will come to that very conclusion when he finished his investigation.

[talaniman]

Halper came in well after the investigation started and there was enough contact by the Dufus and his minions after being WARNED about the Russians to get probable cause. Had they simply reported and acknowledge those contacts we wouldn't be here would we? No the took steps to hide and cover it up and if you cannot be suspicious of such activity then you must also go along with the semantic acrobatics of Rudy and the DUFUS, and sycophant butt boy #1 Nunes and the house repubs.

No biggie to me just own it and we see what happens.

[talaniman]

Trey Gowdy says he sees no evidence of spying on the Trump campaign. HOHUM, another Dufus lie DEBUNKED!

Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy disputes Trump's 'spy' claim, says FBI acted properly - Chicago Tribune

[tomder55]

Let's go with your theory . The Obots had legitimate concerns about Page, Manafort and Papadopoulos in the spring of 2016. They could've interviewed Page as the FBI had done several times since 2013 . Page had been approached by Moscow before and he had cooperated with the Feds . BTW ,the Ruskies considered Page an 'idiot ' and there was zero chance he would be involved serving their interests

They could've done the same for Manafort and his partner Gates who were already in conversation with the Feds about representing Ukrainian interests . They could've been upfront with Trump about their concerns about these members of Trump's campaign instead of conducting counter-intelligence against their political opponent in an election campaign.

Instead, the emperor and his minions decided to use its counterintelligence powers to spy on the Trump campaign, using at least one spy , electronic monitoring of communications without probable cause proven , and other intelligence-gathering tactics (like the attempted sting of Papadopoulos ). It ignored the long time norm against deploying such tactics against political opponents, not based on any evidence of a Trump-Russia criminal conspiracy, but on speculation about the Trump campaign’s Russia contacts and Russia sympathies. Speculation btw by an administration, and a Democrat nominee with their own sordid histories of Russia contacts and Russia sympathies.(Evita's reset ;the emperor kow-towing to Russia to get their cooperation in the Iran sell out deal ;the emperor ushering in Russia's membership in the WTO . His one sided START treaty .the emperor mocking Romney when he called Russia our greatest strategic threat ;the emperor being heard on open mike telling Medvedev that he will have more flexibility after the 2012 elections to make deals favorable to Russia ,supporting the Kremlin’s agenda of hamstringing America;Evita's role in Uranium One ,the fact that the Kremlin paid Bubba $145 million for a short speech . ) It is simply not credible that the Obots believe that they had to use spies and FISA surveillance against the Trump campaign due to suspicion that Trump might embrace and empower Moscow. They did just that for 8 years . No ,the emperor deployed the intelligence and investigative arms of the US government for politically motivated reasons that they still can't back up with credible facts .

For the record Halper's encounter with Page occurred prior to July 31, 2016 (the date the FBI has said the investigation began) . They met mid-July at Cambridge and Page says the invitation was received in early June. Page says his attendance at the Cambridge event was paid for by the organizers . Sounds like another sting attempt to me .

[tomder55]

as for Gowdy ,he is playing the same semantics game the left is playing . This doesn't surprise me too much . He resigned so he can go back into private practice . He expects to rake in the dough ,which means he probably needs Democrat clients . How did he come to that conclusion....with the information the FBI has refused to release to him and Nunes ?

[talaniman]

A republican senator said,

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rubi...ry?id=55444997

[tomder55]

and how did Trump treat Rubio during the campaign ? Seriously ? It should come as no surprise that there are many never -Trumpers from both parties in office . Rubio has seen even less evidence than Gowdy . Release all the documents and let us decide .

[talaniman]

You ever heard of an investigator releasing his documents before he finished his investigation? Wouldn't that be insane? Even senile Rudy would never do that. Until then you have every right to believe a lying cheating Dufus and his sycophants and Alex Jones or all the right wing hollering you want. Don't expect such a bleeding heart liberal as myself to go along though, or give your theories any credence. I'll wait and see what happens next.

Just to note also that obviously not everyone is going to roll over and kiss Trumps ring. Sometimes people don't forget they hate his a$$ and may do things to undermine him. So Rubio is lying and has an agenda. So what? Why should he believe a proved liar loudmouth bully?

Have you heard from #1 butt boy Nunes? Even the FOX crew is calling spygate a bunch of BS.

[paraclete]

Don't worry Tal Trump will issue a blanket pardon and the circus will leave town

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ellers-inquest

[talaniman]

Caputo and Roger Stone now remember Talking to the Russians after 2 years of not that I recall.

Former Trump Operative Roger Stone Met With Russian Who Offered Damaging Hillary Clinton Information for $2 Million | KTLA

If you're keeping count that's 12 Trump cronies that had contact with Russians and FORGOT.

[paraclete]

It seems to me that Trump counting the Russians is not news, as a business man in the hotel business he was looking to build in Russia

[tomder55]

all you need to know .....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIVzua11qYc

[paraclete]

I'm not sure I need to know any of it Tom

[tomder55]

The one thing that Horowitz misses is that his agency at the senior level has always been political dating back to the Hoover days .

[tomder55]

Anti-Trump FBI agent Peter Strzok was forcibly removed from the bureau Tuesday afternoon, with multiple sources saying he was “escorted” from his office after the Inspector General’s scathing report.

[talaniman]

Politics is everywhere in this country so good luck separating it from policy and practice or LAW. So Strzok takes his leave as THAT process leaves the front page and the next events takes over. I know you would rather get the dirt on Mueller, while Mueller gets the dirt on The Dufus Gang, but you know how this works... whatever the latest BREAKING NEWS comes up is what we holler about.

Like the old story about lead poisoning that continues in Michigan. Or Wilbur Ross dumping stocks ahead of the trade wars. You know, political news that the Dufus rather you not talk about.

[tomder55]

why is lead in the water in Michigan Trump's fault ?