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    #21

    Apr 22, 2017, 08:33 AM
    You know he is going to grant a waiver to Exxon. You guys have already declared him "pretty stupid". So there goes the element of surprise.
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    Apr 22, 2017, 09:14 AM
    Trump isn't stupid but he thinks everybody else is. That's why he can tell us how great he is, and how much he has done already.
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    #23

    Apr 22, 2017, 10:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Trump isn't stupid but he thinks everybody else is.
    It's catching. Just look at the posts from the Trump supporters in this very thread.

    I rest my case.
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    Apr 22, 2017, 12:18 PM
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    Apr 22, 2017, 12:35 PM
    Lyin' Trump.

    The bozo even ADMITS to lying as part of his strategy. He lied to all those poor unemployed workers in the rust belt, saying he would guarantee they would get their jobs back. He lied to get their vote. Once he got what he wanted, he bailed. He's been doing that for 40 years.

    Lyin' Trump.
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    Apr 23, 2017, 07:13 AM
    Maybe we get to tell repubs and Trump voters "I told you so". I did after Bush! ;)
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    Apr 23, 2017, 12:51 PM
    Donald Trump's China 'Currency Manipulator' Reversal and Other Flip Flops | National Review
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    #28

    Apr 23, 2017, 03:52 PM
    Must read for all here (and elsewhere).

    My favorite part:

    What Trump said during the campaign was, in fact, a load of nonsense deployed for the purposes of steamrolling the other side in difficult and delicate negotiations. What ... Trump’s admirers missed is that it wasn’t NATO and the Chi-Coms and Enrique Peña Nieto on the other side of the negotiating table getting hornswoggled.

    It was them.
    (Those who voted for Trump).
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    #29

    Apr 24, 2017, 11:28 AM
    How many "stabs in the back" can a President sustain, when his own party is stabbing him in addition to the opposition party and press?
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    Apr 24, 2017, 12:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by catonsville View Post
    How many "stabs in the back" can a President sustain, when his own party is stabbing him in addition to the opposition party and press?
    Methinks he's the one "stabbing" us, with his awful command of English, poor customer service skills, and inability to handle the workload.
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    Apr 24, 2017, 01:41 PM
    11 Ways Trump Has Rolled Back Government Regulations in His First 100 Days

    As President Donald Trump reaches his 100th day in the White House on April 29, he will have worked with Congress to rescind more regulations using the Congressional Review Act
    than any other president. Here's a look at the 11 regulatory rollbacks Congress has passed and Trump has signed.

    Me thinks it is the Press and Rotten Congress doing the Stabbing and that includes Paul Ryan. It is rough duty when you are putting out fires most of the time.
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    Apr 25, 2017, 06:05 AM
    Starting at the top of your "LIST",

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-resolution/41

    This joint resolution nullifies the "Disclosure of Payments by Resource Extraction Issuers" rule finalized by the Securities and Exchange Commission on July 27, 2016. (The rule, mandated under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, requires resource extraction issuers to disclose payments made to governments for the commercial development of oil, natural gas, or minerals.)
    So you think money Exxon pays under the table to foreign governments doesn't need to be disclosed?

    Maybe a better question would be did you read any of these new laws yourself or are you one of those Trumpies that just swallows and thing he puts in your face?
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    Apr 25, 2017, 06:17 AM
    How many "stabs in the back" can a President sustain, when his own party is stabbing him in addition to the opposition party and press?
    He hijacked the Republican party. Being kind is to say he is a NY limousine liberal Republican in the Nelson Rockefeller mode. That equates to a Midwest moderate /liberal Democrat in the rest of the country . He masked his true leanings with nationalist /populist rhetoric during the campaign. There was no way that the writers at 'National Review ' was going to buy his shtick .
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    Apr 25, 2017, 06:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He hijacked the Republican party. Being kind is to say he is a NY limousine liberal Republican in the Nelson Rockefeller mode. That equates to a Midwest moderate /liberal Democrat in the rest of the country . He masked his true leanings with nationalist /populist rhetoric during the campaign. There was no way that the writers at 'National Review ' was going to buy his shtick .
    Everything points to his liberal agenda, but then you could see it coming. What has he said he will do

    pull back on environmental controls, not very liberal
    pull back on trade treaties, not very liberal
    increase military spending, not very liberal
    reduce taxes, not very liberal
    abandon Obamacare, not very liberal

    but then you have to examine what the word liberal means, it might not apply to Trump who obviously wants some big spending programs of his own, big wall, big inferstucture, big deportations, big military

    liberal


    1.favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
    2.(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
    3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.
    4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
    5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression:a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
    6.of or relating to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
    7.free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant:




    somehow I don't see Dump in there, do you
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    #35

    Apr 25, 2017, 06:56 AM
    He lied and deceived on many of the issues that differentiate . Until the election he adored Evita and the Clintoons . He was for gun control ;abortion on demand ,supported funding Planned Parenthood ,universal health care . Trumps agrees with the libs that the government has the arbitrary right to seize private property . He openly supported government giveaways in the form of ethanol subsidies . As noted he is a huuuuuggge fan of using taxpayer money on big public works projects to "create jobs" and "stimulate the economy " . The Tea Party arose in opposition to the stimulus, the auto bailouts, and the bank bailouts. Trump supported all 3 . The candidates who were opposed to all the trade deals was socialist Bolshevik Bernie and Trump. The only place he separates from liberal doctrine is immigration ,corporate taxes ,and reductions in regulations .... all laudable ;but hardly enough to call him conservative .
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    #36

    Apr 25, 2017, 07:17 AM
    Trump is a true capitalist and has no problem giving the repubs something to get what he wants. No that doesn't mean the great unwashed masses who voted for him, who may get a buck after he gets his, or they might not. If working with dems to make MO" money is what he needs to do, he surely will.

    Don't be distracted by the big talk and bluster because since the real story is what the congress is passing and what Trump signs.

    PAY attention!!
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    #37

    Apr 25, 2017, 04:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Trump is a true capitalist and has no problem giving the repubs something to get what he wants. No that doesn't mean the great unwashed masses who voted for him, who may get a buck after he gets his, or they might not. If working with dems to make MO" money is what he needs to do, he surely will.

    Don't be distracted by the big talk and bluster because since the real story is what the congress is passing and what Trump signs.

    PAY attention!!
    I expect Dump to sign whatever is put in front of him, after all that is what he is there for. But Tal, is your congress passing anything or has factionalism taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    hardly enough to call him conservative .
    No he isn't for the establishment, said as much in the draining the swamp comments and he does want change, he wants america to be great again, whatever that means; when you have the largest economy and the largest military
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    Apr 25, 2017, 04:36 PM
    See post 31 and 32.

    No he isn't for the establishment, said as much in the draining the swamp comments and he does want change, he wants america to be great again, whatever that means; when you have the largest economy and the largest military
    He NEEDS the establishment and is now part of it. I can't believe you fell for his campaign promises/slogans TOO!? The lying bully will say and do anything to look good and get what he wants.

    You'll see.
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    #39

    Apr 25, 2017, 04:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    See post 31 and 32.



    He NEEDS the establishment and is now part of it. I can't believe you fell for his campaign promises/slogans TOO!? The lying bully will say and do anything to look good and get what he wants.

    You'll see.
    You think I fell for him, haven't I been saying the same thing, Look Tal from where I stand the whole thing looks like a circus with the clown act in play. You can't find better comedy these days
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    Apr 25, 2017, 06:00 PM
    I'm just waiting for CVille to comeback and defend the republican agenda. That's what Trump is distracting us from while the lame stream talking heads are stuck on the daily BS! Just like the NORK's have the government they deserve, on many levels, so do we in the USA.

    BREAKING NEWS

    The guy that chanted "lock her up" referring to Hillary, may get locked up himself!

    Michael Flynn’s troubles mount | TheHill

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