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Dec 23, 2016, 06:24 AM
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Trump started an arms race with Russia yesterday..
Hello:
He said the US needs to expand its nuclear capability... You KNOW this BUFFOON is gonna DESTROY the world, doncha??
excon
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Expert
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Dec 23, 2016, 07:13 AM
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Before or after he is inaugurated? PLACE YOUR BETS LADIES AND GENTS!
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Dec 23, 2016, 10:50 AM
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Computer Expert and Renaissance Man
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Dec 23, 2016, 12:37 PM
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To be fair, it appears that it was Putin who first suggested that Russia would be upgrading their nuclear capabilities. But Trump's reaction should have been to remind Putin that Russia is a signatory of non proliferation agreements. But the bully and fool that Trump is reacted in the wrong way as usual.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Dec 23, 2016, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottGem
To be fair, it appears that it was Putin who first suggested that Russia would be upgrading their nuclear capabilities. But Trump's reaction should have been to remind Putin that Russia is a signatory of non proliferation agreements. But the bully and fool that Trump is reacted in the wrong way as usual.
And does Trump even know that about Russia?
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Ultra Member
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Dec 25, 2016, 02:52 PM
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He may have stated policy Tom but he could have done it less aggressively. What others took away from his statements is we are back in a nuclear arms race. This whole thing is, as you know, MAD, we already have sufficient weapons to wipe ourselves out many times over. The weapons cannot be used because they will cause a nuclear winter and poison the atmosphere. We have many problems we need to solve and who has the biggest nuclear arsenal isn't one of them
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Dec 25, 2016, 04:03 PM
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Hello tom:
From the get go, Trump SAYS one thing, and then his handlers tell us what we HEARD... Trump used the word EXPAND, and that isn't what current US policy is.. It just isn't.
excon
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Dec 25, 2016, 04:46 PM
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and yet the $ trillion he says he wants to spend matches the emperor's upgrade . Clete ,the nukes we have may be plenty ;but they are out of date cold war relics . Where we are less safe is in having them in our arsenal while the Russians and Chinese upgrade their stockpile .
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Expert
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Dec 25, 2016, 05:34 PM
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The arms race and /or wars was the old way to control or get America and to get people to come together. It used to be "to hate Russia" and for America to come together to hate them. But that does not work any more, since America is too divided.
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Dec 25, 2016, 09:22 PM
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Tom by all means retire the old weapons and replace some of them with new ones but don't expand the arsenal, reduce it and just maybe Putin will follow suit. He knows his arsenal is in the same state as yours but he didn't march up to your border and play games in sight of his people. The problem with america is they don't understand aggressive, they think every word they utter is the word of god and therefore truth when in fact is, it is at best disinformation, and meanwhile Russia, China and others feel threatened and want to build more weapons
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Dec 25, 2016, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
The arms race and /or wars was the old way to control or get America and to get people to come together. It used to be "to hate Russia" and for America to come together to hate them. But that does not work any more, since America is too divided.
And in all the time since WWII there has only been one real act of aggression by Russia against the US despite their other adventurist activities and yet they are an object of hate as if they had actually invaded the US. Time for some realistic views, not those driven by religious or ideological zealotry
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Dec 26, 2016, 02:31 AM
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The fact is that neither the US under Trump or Russia have any plans on exceeding the amts agreed upon in START II . Both have plans on upgrading their arsenal . This is all another fake story. Trump repeatedly said during the campaign that the nuclear arsenal had to be upgraded and the military strengthened .
Salena Zito wrote during the campaign that Trump's opponents make the mistake of taking him literally ,but not seriously where his supporters took him seriously but not literally . Now his opponents are still taking him literally .But ,because he won are also taking him seriously . It is a problem for the President -elect . Someone in his inner circle has to tell him that it really is important to be careful in the words he says and the way he says them.
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Dec 26, 2016, 07:36 AM
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Hello again, tom:
So, when he said the word EXPAND, we should just ignore him, huh?? You DO know that the rest of the world ISN'T going to ignore him.. Yes, WE know he's buffoon who has NO CLUE about the words he uses, but the rest of the world DOESN'T.
I say again, this guy is gonna DESTROY us, and, you KNOW it.
excon
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Dec 26, 2016, 09:10 AM
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someone in his inner circle has to tell him that it really is important to be careful in the words he says and the way he says them.
Agreed!!
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Ultra Member
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Dec 26, 2016, 09:49 AM
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Ex the question is if I believe he will expand our nukes beyond the agreed SALT II limitations. I do not . He is not a dictator and any such expansion would need funding and Congressional approval .
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Dec 26, 2016, 10:36 AM
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Have you told the Donald he isn't a dictator? Can I watch when you do?
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Ultra Member
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Dec 26, 2016, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
He is not a dictator.
How do you know he is not a dictator? In the past he has behaved like a dictator
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Uber Member
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Dec 26, 2016, 05:40 PM
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Hello again, tom:
I LOVE your confidence in the system.. I HOPE you're right.. But, I believe the Republican congress will be COMPLIANT with Trump.. He'll have his way with them.. Oh, they don't wanna be compliant, I agree. But, Trump will DESTROY their career if they're not, and they know it.. So, they'd rather be congressmen than patriots..
excon
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Ultra Member
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Dec 26, 2016, 05:48 PM
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Patriots, the last refuge of scoundrels, is any of this familiar? You seem to be under the misapprehension that the members of Congress are not there for their own benefit. They will protect their own interests and funding the military-industrial complex is what they do best
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