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    Aug 21, 2016, 06:40 AM
    How to Access a Site that is accessible from company desktop only
    How can I have access to a website that is only accessible through our company's network?

    I mean, there is this link I try to open using my smartphone and even my own PC, but its as if it does not exist.

    However, when I use a company's desktop (that is connected via telephone wire), it opens up just fine.

    Can anyone explain to me how is that happen, and how does it work?
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    Aug 21, 2016, 07:09 AM
    THat work computer is part of a domain your personal equipment isn't. And that's why you don't have access to it. You need to contact your IT people to see if they will allow you to connect personal equipment up, but I highly doubt it due to security concerns.
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    Aug 21, 2016, 08:37 AM
    A website is a set of files stored on a WEB server. A WEB server can be on the Internet where it accessible from any Internet connected device or it can be on an Intranet which can onlt be access from a device on a corporate LAN. Apparently the site you want is the latter.
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    Aug 21, 2016, 09:32 AM
    But, what IF I have access to the proxy? Because I'm guessing my device must be connected to the proxy network/server, no?
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    Aug 21, 2016, 09:45 AM
    You need to have access to the company network to be able to use this site, pure and simple.
    It's a very simple matter to lock down such access to the location, user or even device level.
    The real question is why do you need access outside of the corporate environment ?
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    Aug 21, 2016, 05:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Strikeryuzz View Post
    But, what IF I have access to the proxy? Because I'm guessing my device must be connected to the proxy network/server, no?
    Your computer has to be part of the domain... unless it is you aren't getting access to it even if you plug it in at your office. Unless its recognized by the domain server for your employer, you aren't accessing anything.

    Talk to your IT people. Unless of course your motives are other than for work related requirements.

    And with the amount of malware, Trojans and viruses out there, No responsible IT group would allow just anyone to use just anything they feel like to access it.
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    Aug 21, 2016, 07:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Curlyben View Post
    You need to have access to the company network to be able to use this site, pure and simple.
    It's a very simple matter to lock down such access to the location, user or even device level.
    The real question is why do you need access outside of the corporate environment ?

    I'm working with the airlines in my country and I just need to know the flights schedule of my flights of the day. Its such a hassle to have to go back to the office just to check the updated time. I want, if possible, be able to check the schedule while I'm outside of my office. There's probably no Apps for it so my only hope would be, to be able to access it and check the schedule without having to use the company desktop
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    Aug 22, 2016, 02:15 AM
    That makes no sense. Airline schedules are public records. There are loads of apps that list them.

    But the bottom line is, as we have told you, you need to talk to the airline's IT dept.

    That makes no sense. Airline schedules are public records. There are loads of apps that list them.

    But the bottom line is, as we have told you, you need to talk to the airline's IT dept.
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    Aug 22, 2016, 05:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    That makes no sense. Airline schedules are public records. There are loads of apps that list them.

    But the bottom line is, as we have told you, you need to talk to the airline's IT dept.
    Exactly. Which makes it harder to check the schedule. But anyway, I don't think its right for you to simple say "it does not make any sense" because you don't know what's in our website. Some of the information is only for us to see, and since its in that site too, there's really no way for outsider to have access to it.

    But my question is, what exactly do I need from my IT dept to allow me to connect? Is it Proxy?
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    Aug 22, 2016, 05:43 AM
    All you said was "I just need to know the flights schedule of my flights of the day." You didn't say that there was specialized info only available through the corporate app. Otherwise I would have answered differently.

    All you need to do is tell your IT dept that you need to access the corporate app while away from the office. They will tell you what you need. Or if it is even possible.
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    Aug 22, 2016, 06:50 AM
    It's likely an Intranet site. You'd need a VPN account with your company to access the site outside your network with your work computer.
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    Aug 22, 2016, 07:36 AM
    A simple call to your supervisor would head you in the right direction. If he can't give you what you ask for in the technical sense then he could certainly point you to someone that can, or at least explain to you why your request has to be delayed, or denied.

    No one outside your own company can even guess at the policies, procedures, or standards of security your company uses, but I am curious about the type of work you do for the airline that employs you, because I do know that most companies make employees very aware of changes that may affect them in a timely matter, but access to company data is on a need to know level of responsibility.

    In layman's terms if they wanted you to have an app for away from work, they would have given it to you. I am sure your immediate boss will explain that to you.
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    Aug 22, 2016, 10:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No one outside your own company can even guess at the policies, procedures, or standards of security your company uses, but I am curious about the type of work you do for the airline that employs you, because I do know that most companies make employees very aware of changes that may affect them in a timely matter, but access to company data is on a need to know level of responsibility.
    Well I work at the Cargo section. Not the actual airport work. That's why we need to know what time the flight arrive so there will be no documents get left behind. It's also very upsetting to wait 5-10 min (yes, time is a valuable thing so even 1 min wasted waiting feels like a huge loss). And when we return to the office, turns out there's an updated time that it was delayed fr few min or even hours.


    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It's likely an Intranet site. You'd need a VPN account with your company to access the site outside your network with your work computer.
    Oh? That sounds logic. But ofcourse, I need physical access to the net, no?
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    Aug 22, 2016, 12:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Strikeryuzz View Post
    Oh? That sounds logic. But ofcourse, I need physical access to the net, no?
    Maybe! As we have tried to explain we don't know if it is even possible.

    Are you saying that there is not a board in the cargo section that lists flight status?
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    Aug 22, 2016, 03:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    Maybe! As we have tried to explain we don't know if it is even possible.

    Are you saying that there is not a board in the cargo section that lists flight status?
    There is, but we have to drive to the airport field, which obviously don't have any signboards and all.

    Anyway back to topic, so in the end I have to consult our IT for the access to the network via VPN, yes?
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    Aug 22, 2016, 03:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Strikeryuzz View Post
    There is, but we have to drive to the airport field, which obviously don't have any signboards and all.

    Anyway back to topic, so in the end I have to consult our IT for the access to the network via VPN, yes?
    Yes but has this been a game for you. We are all volunteers, with very busy lives, and we help out as much as we can. So what is your point ? Consult your IT. You are bored, and just get it done
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    Aug 22, 2016, 03:51 PM
    We don't know!! How many times do we have to say that? We are guessing that this app is on an Intranet so your IT dept has to tell you how to access it. We have no clue what will be necessary, we only know you have to ask them.

    It might be easier to put a display board where you need it.

    But the bottom line is, if you need the data, you need to talk to your company about how to provide the data. Asking us what is necessary will only elicit guesses. They are educated guesses but still guesses.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 01:30 AM
    Well, thanks everybody. I guess I just have to give suggestions to my company. But, you guys know how it would turn out to be, right.

    The question is, Will they even listen to a person with no influential power and not even have any high post to voice it out? I could only wait and see. Thanks people :)
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    Aug 23, 2016, 01:38 AM
    My company has a process called OFI (Opportunity for Improvement). Basically a suggestion box. Workers submit suggestions and show how the suggestion can improve productivity. We have accepted OFIs from people on the shop floor. If you can show how it will increase productivity I don't see why it wouldn't be listened to.
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    Aug 23, 2016, 05:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Strikeryuzz View Post
    The question is, Will they even listen to a person with no influential power and not even have any high post to voice it out? I could only wait and see. Thanks people :)
    You never know where things will lead unless you try it.

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