[talaniman]

I could also point out the struggles of non islamics on every other board here CD. What you dismiss as everyday life is most certainly a struggle for many others, no matter the religion, color, or location.

I get your point about theocracy though, if that is your point, and can only say that many in this country would love a theocracy here in America, as recent events have brought to light. The notion of a one religion nation that assimilates all others is hardly new to America.

[cdad]

I could also point out the struggles of non islamics on every other board here CD. What you dismiss as everyday life is most certainly a struggle for many others, no matter the religion, color, or location.

I get your point about theocracy though, if that is your point, and can only say that many in this country would love a theocracy here in America, as recent events have brought to light. The notion of a one religion nation that assimilates all others is hardly new to America.

The struggles of everyday life as we assume it to be arent anywhere near the internal conflict of the muslim. For example most women dont have to struggle with the various choices they make as far as travel or what they wear. That struggle for the American woman is mostly about selfesteem and not about a religion.

When being asked to assimilate it is not about bending culture it is about playing nice with others while keeping your own self intact. It has to do with respect.

[talaniman]

That's why I asked what was meant by what was the meaning of assimilation early on, and you seem to be the first to define it as such. Dominance of women by men can be seen in many cultures across the globe, not just with muslim women in the middle east, and not just exclusively against women by men either. Social class even in America causes much strife and conflicts.

Can Saudi Arabia and Syria be any worse than Russia and China? I doubt that seriously.

Can you really say American Muslims are not for the most part playing nice as they can under the circumstances? I think most "not playing nice" is the majority against the minority in almost every place in the world. Or the haves dominating the have NOTS.

[paraclete]

When muslims are not in the ascendancy they "play nice" but when they dominate an area things change and they don't deal with the attitudes of their radicals. You have a realively small muslim community but I have seen the development here where you would not have seen a hijab to it being a common sight yet the number of muslims has not grown radically but they have become more radical.