[speechlesstx]

So are you saying...

No, I'm saying even if "you don't need it, and don't use it", YOU STILL PAY FOR IT if it's covered.

[smoothy]

The only ones still hollering are the politicians in Red States up for re-election. The debate is OVER and we have moved to implementation.

THe next President who will be a Republican can toss it assidecompletely by an exacutive order even if congress and the Senate won't repeal it. Obamas been doing that for most of his 6.5 years in office with many laws... and the next president PARTICULARLY if he is a Republican... can do it too.

[talaniman]

When will you learn to not count on the outcome of the next election to change your luck? It hasn't worked for you so far. That's either wishful thinking, or false hope. You have to do much more than holler about everything.

[NeedKarma]

by an exacutive order

?? Fascist dictatorial emperor!!!

[smoothy]

THe Democrats have proven they are completely fine with Executive orders... unless they are hypocritical fools.. they will be fine with a Republican president doing EXACTLY the same thing.

If they aren't... then they can just shut up until HE has been able to do exactly the same for two terms.

Otherwise why are the Democrats preventing an Impeachment and Jailtime from happening RIGHT NOW over it? He can always be sent to jail after he leaves office....if he doesn't flee home to Kenya.

[NeedKarma]

they will be fine with a Republican president doing EXACTLY the same thing.

Why? They are no better or aim for no higher standard? I think it's because they are proven to be incredible liars that enjoy the company of young boys.

[smoothy]

What higher standard... if Obama can do it... so can any other president...

What is it you were always told as a child? Be careful what you wish for... you might just get it?


Well the Democrats lowered the bar... about as low as it can be lowered, since an earthworm can no longer crawl under it... anything a Republican will do will likely BE a HIGHER STANDARD than anything that happened under Obama.

And if Obama was allowed to do it... then precident is made than nothing can be done to stop a Republican from doing it too.

[talaniman]

All the presidents have done the same as Obama and more. That's a pretty selective memory you have there.

[NeedKarma]

So basically you always aim for the lowest common denominator. I've noticed that from the neo-conservatives here.

[smoothy]

Tal... your selective memory is kicking in again... NO AMerican president has EVER pulled the stunts Obama has...

Name one documented incident of any Republican president publicly threatening a Democrat congress to do what he wants or he's going to do it on his own anyway?

[smoothy]

NK... anything a Republican president will do from now on is not the loewst commoin denominator... Obama already set that standard in the dirt. Anything a Republican would do now would be setting a higher standard than has existed in at least the previous two election cycles.

[talaniman]

You can look up the history of executive orders for yourself.

[tomder55]

The only ones still hollering are the politicians in Red States up for re-election. The debate is OVER and we have moved to implementation.

see my comment on the ACA op .

[smoothy]

Tal... YOU made the claim, so you must have some memory of it happening before. I'm the one that said it has never happened before ever ( A president threatening congress with if they don't do what he demands they do ..he will do it on his own by executive order, while he throws another temper tantrum like a 2 year old not having their way) . And certainly not in my lifetime.

[tomder55]

Nixon tried an imperial Presidency and he was forced to resign. Start calling the emperor Milhouse.

[talaniman]

I didn't make a claim, I stated a fact, smoothy and Tom its still early for the ACA implementation.

You both live in the world of false hope if you think Obama will be impeached, resign, or be SUED!!

[tomder55]

you said "The debate is OVER ". I say it's as over as your 'settled science' .

[smoothy]

So Tal... you claim it's a fact a Republican, or even another Democrat President has made that threat before... since things like that in our lifetimes would have been printed, or caught on video or audio... it shouldn't be hard for you to provide a link to even one instance by someone OTHER than Obama.

I personally think your Messiah has become completely unhinged based on his eratic behaviour every time the SCOTUS beach Slaps him for overstepping his authority in recent weeks. He probibly goes home and slaps Moochele around or crys like a baby in his office.

[paraclete]

you really thinks he is worried if his advisers are any good they would have told it it was a possible outcome so it isn't a surprise, your whole system is designed to check power so that's the way it works