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mogrann · Jun 5, 2014, 06:03 AM

I thought I had found a group that had the same beliefs as me. I thought I belonged and they wanted to achieve the same goals.
Last night and today in Moncton NB there is a shooter loose. He is armed and dangerous. 3 cops dead 2 cops injured. City on lockdown.
He belongs to anonymous and I went to the page. They agree with what he is doing and actively supporting him.
I am so disillusioned and guess I fit in no where. I have left all of my anon groups and guess I will go solo.
My beliefs you can change the world by being nice, protest and being knowledgeable about issues going on. Vote etc.
This post is not about gun laws by the way. I believe 100% if I can realize with my issues I should not have guns then others with mental health issues should be able to do the same. I am no rocket scientist, nothing special.
Today I worry for friends and family down home. Stay safe all. Sigh sad world it is becoming.

J_9 · Jun 5, 2014, 06:05 AM

What is anonymous?

tomder55 · Jun 5, 2014, 06:12 AM

I think they are the idiots that walk around in Guy Fawkes masks.
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mogrann · Jun 5, 2014, 06:13 AM

Nods Tom... I believe a lot in what they believe but not the violence they are no advocating.

paraclete · Jun 5, 2014, 06:57 AM

Yes a take off of the film V, the idea is basicly vengence against a corrupt political system, I don't thing you have anything to worry about

NeedKarma · Jun 5, 2014, 07:04 AM

Hi mogrann,

We're not far from each other. We're struggling with this here as well. I have a couple of RCMP friends I need to check on.

tomder55 · Jun 5, 2014, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by mogrann

Nods Tom... I believe a lot in what they believe but not the violence they are no advocating.

From what I hear ,they are planning to do a hacker attack on the World Cup Games in Brazil .Their call for protests there has already lead to violence.

paraclete · Jun 6, 2014, 06:17 AM

They are opportunists Tom, they probably think wasting money on football stadums is a corrupt act. Given the record of FIFA they are probably right

mogrann · Jun 6, 2014, 06:50 AM

They have caught the guy.
When I became involved it was due to situations in Canada with the government, helping the homeless etc. I thought from what they told me they believed in peaceful demonstrations, trying to change the world for the better etc. Now I see with the situation in Moncton they are all about achieving their goals at any costs... effectively becoming as corrupt as some of the government is. I prefer my way as I am not hurting people or the planet.

NeedKarma · Jun 6, 2014, 07:46 AM

Now I see with the situation in Moncton they are all about achieving their goals at any costs

I don't think you can attribute his actions to the group Anonymous. He is one disturbed fellow. Usually when Anon is involved in an action it is a group activity.

mogrann · Jun 6, 2014, 07:47 AM

NeedKarma I went to the anonymous page he belonged to on Facebook and they were supporting him.

smoothy · Jun 6, 2014, 07:54 AM

You don't even want to know what I think about that group... and the site censor settings wouldn't allow me to print it.

But in short... they are a bunch of blowhard hypocrites... doing exactly what they complain about others doing. Only they do it more often.

Its like Bullies complaining about being picked on by other bullies.

If any of them had real lives or jobs they wouldn't have time for these childish antics.

NeedKarma · Jun 6, 2014, 08:08 AM

I went to the anonymous page he belonged to on Facebook and they were supporting him.

Ah, I see. That's terrible. I'm on your side about this.

mogrann · Jun 6, 2014, 08:09 AM

Sadly Smoothy I believe there are more people than me that believe in them thinking they are a peaceful group. Good people not realizing they are supporting a group that believes in achieving what they want at any cost. I guess I am gullible and stupid

smoothy · Jun 6, 2014, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by mogrann

Sadly Smoothy I believe there are more people than me that believe in them thinking they are a peaceful group. Good people not realizing they are supporting a group that believes in achieving what they want at any cost. I guess I am gullible and stupid

I agree... a lot of these type groups prey on people who for whatever reason are susceptible to being influenced at a particular given moment... then their idocrination begins.

Don't beat yourself up over it... you saw them for who they are... that's saying something good about who you are... a lot of people when they get sucked in really start to beleave the stories and crap they are fed. You saw through it despite it all. That's more than a lot of others can say.

NeedKarma · Jun 6, 2014, 08:19 AM

Don't beat yourself up over it... you saw them for who they are... that's saying something good about who you are... a lot of people when they get sucked in really start to beleave the stories and crap they are fed. You saw through it despite it all. That's more than a lot of others can say.

That sounds an awful lot like empathy. :-)

Wondergirl · Jun 6, 2014, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That sounds an awful lot like empathy. :-)

Good call, NK!

smoothy · Jun 6, 2014, 08:50 AM

Well there isn't a lot of it... its not a well... more like a pothole after a rainstorm. So don't get too used to it.

Wondergirl · Jun 6, 2014, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Well there isn't a lot of it... its not a well... more like a pothole after a rainstorm. So don't get too used to it.

Oh, c'mon. Admit it. There's a warm and fuzzy smoothy in there somewhere.

And mogrann, you did what you needed to do to quiet your mind and improve your life. Be proud of yourself!

ebaines · Jun 6, 2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Oh, c'mon. Admit it. There's a warm and fuzzy smoothy in there somewhere.

I've always though smoothy was the "I say let 'em crash" guy from the movie "Airplane": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn0WdJx-Wkw

JK.