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speechlesstx · Dec 12, 2013, 06:39 PM

Finally, an award he deserves, and from a left leaning fact checker no less.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-plan-keep-it/

Well done Mr. President. You promised us the utmost in transparency and cooperation and gave us the utmost in secrecy, obstruction, partisanship and just lied, lied, lied.

I hope you're proud.

talaniman · Dec 12, 2013, 07:08 PM

Bet a tingle went up your leg reading this stuff. :D

speechlesstx · Dec 12, 2013, 07:29 PM

Nope, but good to see it doesn't bother you. Miss those Bush years?

talaniman · Dec 12, 2013, 07:51 PM

I thrived and survived under Bush as I do under Obama and all the presidents before them and whatever family values or moral majority or TParty group that was hollering at the time. God willing and the creek don't rise.

paraclete · Dec 12, 2013, 08:53 PM

what do y'all expect, You think he's gunna tell yah everythung just because you wantta know. Actually he only has to report once a year, not give you a runnin commentary

speechlesstx · Dec 13, 2013, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

I thrived and survived under Bush as I do under Obama and all the presidents before them and whatever family values or moral majority or TParty group that was hollering at the time. God willing and the creek don't rise.

At least none of them forced an entire nation to lose their insurance and possibly their doctor. And spare us the "it's so much better than what you had" drivel.

By the way, this also marks another achievement Bush couldn't reach, liar of the year.

talaniman · Dec 13, 2013, 07:04 AM

At least none of them forced an entire nation to lose their insurance and possibly their doctor.

I will call this an exaggeration. That's as nice as I can get about such roaring rhetorical BS.

speechlesstx · Dec 13, 2013, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

I will call this an exaggeration. That's as nice as I can get about such roaring rhetorical BS.

That rhetoric is much closer to the truth than what we get from the emperor. I don't know anyone that got to keep the insurance they had, and you yourself have argued we were just losing the "junk plans" we were saddled with.

talaniman · Dec 13, 2013, 08:30 AM

All the people you know are self employed?

Wondergirl · Dec 13, 2013, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That rhetoric is much closer to the truth than what we get from the emperor. I don't know anyone that got to keep the insurance they had, and you yourself have argued we were just losing the "junk plans" we were saddled with.

I still have mine, and my private-pay son still has his -- neither of us got negative changes, and my son's premium went down by $15 or so.

excon · Dec 13, 2013, 08:44 AM

Hello again, Steve:

At least none of them forced an entire nation to lose their insurance and possibly their doctor.

I didn't lose mine. They're HAPPY to take my money.

But..... As a right winger who inherently understands market issues, I wonder if you thought about what you're saying...

Clearly, if the insurance company's cancelled the ENTIRE nations health care policies, the ENTIRE industry would go BROKE.

excon

talaniman · Dec 13, 2013, 08:50 AM

Why can't wingers just admit they don't even know what they have. They just know its cheap.

speechlesstx · Dec 13, 2013, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

All the people you know are self employed?

Um, I'm not and we were forced to another more expensive plan with worse coverage as was my wife but I already said that.

speechlesstx · Dec 13, 2013, 10:24 AM

Clearly you two have an aversion to reality. The entire premise of the thread is the lie of the year being you can keep your insurance.

excon · Dec 13, 2013, 10:35 AM

Hello again,

Merry Christmas...

What?? It's my Christmas palm..

speechlesstx · Dec 13, 2013, 11:15 AM

Looks like a phallus to me. Clinton had a propensity to draw them.