[paraclete]

The news that the US Supreme Court had approved gay marriage swept into our news and swept out just as fast. Many things were instantly more important and that's the way it should be. Is the world fimally getting some perspective?

[cdad]

Seems the perspective is to harm those that dont sgree with your opinion so long as you belong to the favored class.

Right now in the U.S. the liberals are having a feild day and they dont even realize how they are destroying the country. They think its all going to last forever but soon the well will run dry and they wont have a clue as to what to do.

[NeedKarma]

Right now in the U.S. the liberals are having a feild day and they dont even realize how they are destroying the country. They think its all going to last forever but soon the well will run dry and they wont have a clue as to what to do.

Replace "liberals" with "conservatives" and the statement can also be true.

[cdad]

Replace "liberals" with "conservatives" and the statement can also be true.

If you think that is true then you really need to look at what is really going on. Im not seeing conservatives pass laws that cost billions to poor people and hide from the content of the laws until it is passed. I dont see conservatives wanting to give hand outs over and over thinking all they have to do is fire up the money presses and it is paid for. Real people are suffering from liberal laws and behavior. Look at all the cities and states that are near or are going bankrupt and you will see they are and have been under liberal control for decades. Not all problems are solved by simply throwing more money at them.

[talaniman]

And of course the conservative solution is the only solution. No compromise possible.

[Wondergirl]

If you think that is true then you really need to look at what is really going on. Im not seeing conservatives pass laws that cost billions to poor people and hide from the content of the laws until it is passed. I dont see conservatives wanting to give hand outs over and over thinking all they have to do is fire up the money presses and it is paid for. Real people are suffering from liberal laws and behavior. Look at all the cities and states that are near or are going bankrupt and you will see they are and have been under liberal control for decades. Not all problems are solved by simply throwing more money at them.

Oh, yes. Check out what's happening in Illinois with basic services to the disabled, the elderly,and children, thanks to a Republican governor.

[Fr_Chuck]

Made news here in China, China feels that Americans are violent people who can not control their sexual urges and live immoral lives with just lust of sex, money and power.

And it also is a joke here that America now has a emperor called the Supreme Court that has taken away the republic and any form of democracy.
So to at least some parts of the world, America is a laughing stock at the changes happening.

[paraclete]

You know Chuck america has been a laughing stock for sometime, unfortunately they don't know it. Daesh is laughing in Iraq, China is laughing in the south china sea, North Korea is laughing, Russia is laughing and so is Iran, meanwhile america gives into human weakness and lust and calls it utopia. I'm sure all the BTGLP will flock to america now and all I can say we will be well rid of them

[tomder55]

Made news here in China, China feels that Americans are violent people who can not control their sexual urges and live immoral lives with just lust of sex, money and power.

And it also is a joke here that America now has a emperor called the Supreme Court that has taken away the republic and any form of democracy.
So to at least some parts of the world, America is a laughing stock at the changes happening.

The cruelest cut is that John Roberts made it clear during his confirmation that he opposed judicial activism and legislating from the bench. He has twice changed the ACA with the stroke of his pen. He is an unelected uber-legislator

There is no recourse against SCOTUS tyranny . The last time a justice was subject to impeachment was in 1801 . Jefferson want to rid the country of Samuel Chase's services. He was impeached for allowing his partisan leanings to affect his decisions . The Senate voted to acquit Chase of all charges . Since then associate justices have had virtual immunity even when there was no doubt about certain justices incompetence.
It would take an Amendment to put term limits on SCOTUS . There is no way the traditional way of getting amendments would get the job done. But if there was an Article 5 "application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states," .... to "call a convention for proposing amendments",perhaps the course of the country could be righted .

[paraclete]

The is also a recourse for tyranny Tom, something about liberty being refreshed in blood of course those are old ideas held closely by those who wrote your constitution and long forgotten, they probably died out after the civil war to be replaced with flowery speech and filibusters

[talaniman]

Your much beloved founders wrote the rules and now you holler foul?

[paraclete]

They weren't my founders, my founders wrote a constitution it is very hard to change and as a result we don't have all this constitutional bullcrap, of course, we had a hundred years of observing your mistakes to guide us

[talaniman]

I directed my comments to Tom, but will remark our constitutions is as hard to change also, but can be challenged. There is a process in place. Good you learned from our mistakes, and good luck learning from your own.

[tomder55]

Your much beloved founders wrote the rules and now you holler foul?

Jefferson yelled foul long before I did .

"You seem ... to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.... Their power [is] the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots."



An Article 5 Convention is within the rules .

[talaniman]

Go for it.

[paraclete]

Yes Tal we continually learn from our own mistakes and thus we don't need to resort to constitutional constraints to keep our legislature in line