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    Oct 18, 2013, 05:57 AM
    I did enjoy 'The origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.'
    I know it is considered poor scientifically, and parts of it make me cringe, but it does have some good ideas in it about human consciousness.
    (For anyone seeing that title, don't be intimidated - it's easy to read.)
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    Oct 19, 2013, 04:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by joypulv View Post
    I did enjoy 'The origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.'
    I know it is considered poor scientifically, and parts of it make me cringe, but it does have some good ideas in it about human consciousness.
    (For anyone seeing that title, don't be intimidated - it's easy to read.)

    Sorry about the poor quality of my previous post. It was done in a rush as I had to leave. When I read it again it hardly seems worthwhile finishing.

    Yes, an interesting book. I did read it a while back.
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    Oct 19, 2013, 05:22 AM
    POOR? Not at all! I am so sorry I didn't address all that you put into it. I thought about it a lot. I thought about it as I watched a video of a dog that swims out every day to play with a dolphin, who seems to be there waiting for him. I thought about human consciousness and animal consciousness, and what it means, how it can possibly be defined.
    I thought about a story I heard about an interview with one of the last natives to this country who hadn't been acclimated to the white man. He was asked to talk about his life, who he was. He couldn't. He described the creation of the world and the creation of man and finally described his tribe, and that's as far as he could go.
    Talk about a simpler time, when we didn't even have a self!
    Simpler in that way anyway. Such a struggle to survive that sitting around 'thinking' about things that didn't relate directly to survival probably meant an even earlier death that was already very short.
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    Oct 19, 2013, 07:16 AM
    joypulv (and others), you might fight this author interesting. He writes about the consciousness and emotional lives of animals --

    Jeffrey Masson - Bestselling Author of Books About the Emotional Lives of Animals, Veganism and Anti-Psychiatry

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