[paraclete]

Tal I ignore nothing each of us must start reform in their own backyard, not be reactionary when it is suggested that is what we should do. You think education and feminism stops abortions, you should let your head see daylight once in while. As to being a fundamentalist, yes I have some views that are only reinforced by what I see in society, particularly "western" society typified by the views of some

[talaniman]

I said education and science. Where did feminism come from? Fundamentalist are a closed minded lot that only see what reinforces what they believe.

[paraclete]

That is a world view that doesn't allow for any view but your own, you see there are many closed minded people in this world. fundamentalists see the world with a particular world view, that it has moved far from a desirable path,

[paraclete]

It's widely regarded as a weed. But the tiny fern Azolla once saved the planet from runaway climate change. Can it do it again? | News.com.au

So there you have it, we don't need those renewables afterall, we can take our time developing them and we don't need stupid market mechanisms that increase the costs either. I know this won't please those who see a tax as a solution to everything and it won't please those who think the market is the answer to everything. but it will be a win for the rest of us sufferring humanity. We can go back to using coal and oil and life can return to normal. Think of the jobs being saved and employment will jump in azolla plantations

This stuff has so many uses, I wonder if it can be converted to fuel

[tomder55]

Kudos to the Aussies .

Australia Repeals Carbon Tax Under Tony Abbott In Smart Policy Move - Investors.com

[paraclete]

yes indeed we have removed a socialist initiative, one that cost the ordinary person dearly, but we are far from dismantelling their objective

[Tuttyd]

Tomder quote.

'Kudos to the Aussies".

Yes, strange how we manage to get things done.

[paraclete]

Less even though we have our own brand of B/S we are reasonable people

[tomder55]

because we have envirowacko extremists in control of most of the government ;including the unelected 4th branch ;the massive bureaucracy .

[paraclete]

and I understand your obscession with firearms, but I still think they need to be controlled. I watch an interesting doco tracing Alexander's footsteps and it revealed the consequence of climate change on a massive scale, proving, in my opinion, that what we are seeing is a long term trend, not some five minute abberation

[speechlesstx]

Fundamentalist are a closed minded lot that only see what reinforces what they believe.

As opposed to the open-mindedness of libs?? Bwahahahaha!!!

Arrest Climate-Change Deniers

Tim Cook to Climate Skeptic Group: Get Out of Apple Stock

Letter: Climate change deniers' words are lies that shouldn't be printed

BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

Screw free speech! Al Gore is pleased that Reddit is censoring ‘climate deniers’

"We’ve tolerated the deniers for far too long in this body,” Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Moonbattery)

Skeptics may be guilty of a “new crime against humanity”

CLIMATE ALARMIST CALLS FOR BURNING DOWN SKEPTICS’ HOMES

NASA’s Global Warming Fanatic James Hansen: Skeptics of Our Junk Science Are Guilty of “Crimes Against Humanity"

[paraclete]

A little bit of media rhetoric there speech, I expect that when you look at what was actually said it wasn't as strong. I'm not a climate change denier, I recognise it is happening, I'm just not signed on to the single cause/solution debate. Evidence I see from a number of sources point not only to man made impacts but to something much more long term and beyond our control

[smoothy]

I suppose Dinosaurs were responsible for the much higher tempratures when they were around, farting breathing all that air. Apparently driving around in Fred Flintstonemobiles.

[paraclete]

Undoubtedly there might of been more carbon dioxide at that time due to volcanic activity and other explanations we were not there to observe, but to suggest that the dinosaurs had any impact on their climate is a adle brained as suggesting we have the ability to reverse what is happening at the moment. What seems to have escaped attention is that in between the time of the dinosaur and now there has been an ice age or ice ages on planet Earth and we are now post ice age and have been only for a very short time, The Earth continues to warm up getting back to a norm we have no real idea about, this is what we are observing and concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere are part of that.

Undoubtedly populations who have taken over territory made available by the big freeze are greatly aggrieved at the thought that they might have to move again but nothing is forever as even the city of Las Vegas is about to find out, and no amount of hand wringing and emotive wailing is going to change anything

[smoothy]

Exactly... actually there is ample proof the last few hundred years has been an unusual WET period for the south west and its just returning to normal

The ruins from the Anasazi indians proves it...as well as some very old trees in the region.

[paraclete]

Yes there are shifting climate patterns on your continent as the events leading to the Dust Bowl of the thirties tesitfy too. It seems there were a number of populations who inexplicably suffered decline, not only there, but in other parts of the world, things were much hotter and wetter in the time of the greeks and vast areas of Asia are now desert which were once flourishing but we have this silly idea that what we have is utopia and must be preserved at all costs. We have forgotten that vast populations moved west for a reason which could generally be described as climate change but those populations have now reached the pacific and have nowhere to go

[speechlesstx]

A little bit of media rhetoric there speech, I expect that when you look at what was actually said it wasn't as strong.

Um, calling for the arrest and punishment of skeptics, threatening to burn down their homes, accusing them of "crimes against humanity"? Sounds pretty strong to me.

[talaniman]

Nothing but cheap talk.

[speechlesstx]

Nothing but cheap talk

Shoe on the other foot...

[paraclete]

it's just rabble rousing, the lot of it and with this subject there is no shortage of rabble