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    Apr 19, 2013, 02:00 AM
    In Memoriam
    Twenty years ago today, the constitutional republic of the United States of America was dealt a mortal wound. American tanks were used in the burning of a church and the killing of 76 men, women, and children ON AMERICAN SOIL!

    The Left today blames Wayne LaPierre and the Koch brothers for the decline of America. The Right blames George Soros and Harry Reid. Neither seems to realize that the fascists have already taken over D.C. Janet Reno killed my country, along with these churchgoers.

    Chanel Andrade, 1, American
    Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
    Katherine Andrade, 24, American
    George Bennett, 35, British
    Susan Benta, 31, British
    Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
    Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
    Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
    Shari Doyle, 18, American
    Beverly Elliot, 30, British
    Doris Fagan, 51, British
    Yvette Fagan, 32, British
    Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
    Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
    Sandra Hardial, 27, British
    Diana Henry, 28, British
    Paulina Henry, 24, British
    Phillip Henry, 22, British
    Stephen Henry, 26, British
    Vanessa Henry, 19, British
    Zilla Henry, 55, British
    Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
    Floyd Houtman, 61, American
    Sherri Jewell, 43, American
    David M. Jones, 38, American
    Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
    Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
    David Koresh, 33, American
    Rachel Koresh, 24, American
    Star Koresh, 6, American
    Jeffery Little, 32, American
    Nicole Gent Little, 24, Australian, pregnant
    Dayland Lord Gent, 3, Australian[73]
    Paiges Gent,[74] 1, American
    Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
    Anita Martin, 18, American
    Diane Martin, 41, British
    Lisa Martin, 13, American
    Sheila Martin, Jr. 15, American
    Wayne Martin, Jr. 20, American
    Wayne Martin, Sr. 42, American
    Abigail Martinez, 11, American
    Audrey Martinez, 13, American
    Crystal Martinez, 3, American
    Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
    Joseph Martinez, 8, American
    Julliete Martinez, 30, American
    John-Mark McBean, 27, British
    Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
    Melissa Morrison, 6, British
    Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
    Sonia Murray, 29, American
    Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
    James Riddle, 32, American
    Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino[75]
    Judy Schneider, 41, American
    Steve Schneider, 43, American
    Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
    Clifford Sellors, 33, British
    Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
    Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
    Aisha Gyrfas Summers, 17, Australian, pregnant
    Gregory Summers, 28, American
    Startle Summers, 1, American
    Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
    Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
    Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
    Chica Jones, 2, American
    Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
    Serenity Jones, 4, American
    Little One Jones, 2, American
    Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
    Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
    Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

    Argue over the scraps all you want, the America I was taught to revere is dead.
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    Apr 19, 2013, 08:05 AM
    Wow 20 years already?

    And Janet Reno was so hard on the eyes.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 05:46 AM
    168 killed on American soil in Oklahoma City, April19th,1995.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 06:09 AM
    Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were mass murderers who took out their anger about Waco on innocents . What is Reno's; General Wesley Clark's(then commander of the Cavalry Division of the US Army's III Corps),Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker's(then head of Special Forces at Fort Bragg) and Bill Clintoon's(who signed a waiver of the Posse Comitatus Act) ;and Vince Foster (Clintoon's point man on the operation) excuse ?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 07:15 AM
    And David Koresh was the second coming of Christ. I know the government should have left this nut alone. Lets leave all the loons alone, and let 'em drink their Kool-Aid in peace. Or whatever else they come up with.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:25 AM
    So you are not distrurbs about American military action on American soil against American citizens ? Last week it was not the Army going after terrorists like the Waco assault ,where Delta Force and Army tanks and incendiary grenades were used against men women and children . The Posse Comitatus Act was good enough for the country until the Clintoons .
    Against terrorists who had killed 3 and wounded over 200 ,a man hunt and cordon contained them . They were going nowhere. But the Clintoons had to flush out the Branch Davidians... why ? Where were they going ?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:27 AM
    Last week it was not the Army going after terrorists
    Maybe if there were 80 of them. How many terrorists were there?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:38 AM
    There were not 80 terrorists there . There were 76 victims . Most of the victims women and children.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 09:40 AM
    Then who were all those people firing at law enforcement?
    Don't get me wrong, I think it's terrible what happened there but it isn't so one-sided. Religious wackos are dangerous for all weak-minded people.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 10:02 AM
    Again ; the only other time the military was used on American soil to conduct military actions against fellow Americans was in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War. Posse Comitatus Act went into effect in 1878... specifically to outlaw the use of federal troops for civilian law enforcement .It survived far worse than a compound of contained religious wackos . We have armed gangs roaming our cities and the military isn't used. But against a bunch of holed up religious nuts it was OK to burn them out ?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 10:37 AM
    The fire that the davidians started themselves because their leader told them they were part of a Biblical "end-of-times"?
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    Apr 23, 2013, 10:45 AM
    They didn't start the fire. The troops used incendiary tear gas .
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    Apr 23, 2013, 11:00 AM
    That is still under debate. Koresh seemingly had no qualms about mass suicide.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 11:43 AM
    Yeah the Clinoonistas still insist they didn't start the fire. They also said they raided the place for illegal guns and illegal drugs... none of which were found on the compound.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 11:54 AM
    Don't even know who/what Clinoonistas are. Oh well.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 12:18 PM
    'Children of Waco' Speak Out - ABC News

    Yeah this guy was a righteous upstanding citizen we should all follow. Maybe it could have been handled better by the government, I concede that point, but no way do I or will I condone this cult. An idiot who holds his own people hostage is no leader, he was a loon.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 03:37 PM
    I made no commentary on the cult.The illegal military response was an action that reeks of the same heavy and ham-handed tactics that the Russians used in their approach to the Belsan school crisis and the theater hostage crisis. If you are truly concerned about the children you don't go in with guns blazing ,tanks pumping tear gas and knocking down walls where the children probably are located . There was absolutely no reason for the assault . They were going no where.
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    Apr 23, 2013, 07:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Don't even know who/what Clinoonistas are. Oh well.
    Don't you feel out of it when someone invents a new label, you say I'll have to go and look that up

    What elements do we have here

    Clin, that's a partial for clinton or did he forget the T
    Oon; could this be a partial for toon, or loon
    Ista, that's spanish for being part of something

    So I guess in Tom's little world it means being a clinton groupie

    But yes we don't want everything he says to need a translation
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    Apr 24, 2013, 03:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    don't you feel out of it when someone invents a new label, you say I'll have to go and look that up

    What elements do we have here

    Clin, that's a partial fo clinton or did he forget the T
    oon; could this be a partial for toon, or loon
    ista, that's spanish for being part of something

    so I guess in Tom's little world it means being a clinton groupie

    but yes we don't want everything he says to need a translation
    Then why waste your time responding ?
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    Apr 24, 2013, 04:01 AM
    then why waste your time responding
    Why waste your time making up childish words?

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