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    #41

    Dec 13, 2012, 06:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    a resume is only history, what are you capable of
    I've done better than Obama has... the last 4 years... I haven't run World record Deficits...

    Quite the opposite... I've managed to NOT spend far more than I made. Either in business or my personal life.

    You can teach your average gradeschooler kid to balance a checkbook... but apparently not a half black man from Kenya.
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    Dec 13, 2012, 07:03 PM
    What part of leadership don't you get, did he spend this money alone? No, the money was spent under the auspices and consent of Congress. If anyone should take the blame for the mess it is that bunch of pussies. Some one yells do something and when something is done, they say, I was only talking, I didn't think you would do it.

    So his life skills revolve around spending to solve a problem. If you didn't want him there you shouldn't have elected him, but you can't disregard history, the other side of politics is just as good at deficit spending as this fellow, who created the tax cuts that are the bone of contention now? Who started two expensive wars? Who allowed the crap to go on that created the GFC? I think he is doing better than Dumbo
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    Dec 13, 2012, 08:13 PM
    You can teach your average gradeschooler kid to balance a checkbook... but apparently not a half black man from Kenya.
    Well there you go, that speaks volumes.
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    Dec 13, 2012, 09:31 PM
    It is once again obvious that people in the USA must demonstrate their lack of knowledge of the 95% who form the rest of humanity. There are educated people throughout the world, many with a far better education than is apparently available there. Many live without the prejudice which is apparent in that comment.

    To correct the record Obama was born in Hawaii, and much of his education was in the US, his father was from Kenya, so maybe they don't teach people to balance checkbooks in Hawaii
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    #45

    Dec 14, 2012, 01:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post

    You can teach your average gradeschooler kid to balance a checkbook....but apparently not a half black man from Kenya.
    When it comes to a individuals genetic make up there is no half, third, or a quarter of anything. That is not how genetics works. If there is any other misunderstandings it is also the case that a person genetic make up has nothing to do with the blood.

    Take a basic course in biology.

    Tut
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    #46

    Dec 14, 2012, 07:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The people who constantly deride those who will never be present to defend themselves are real pussies in real life.
    Oh the irony.
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    #47

    Dec 15, 2012, 06:29 PM
    Back to the subject of this post if you guys don't mind.

    How

    Unions were a crucial part of this process, too. By fighting for higher wages and better benefits, unions ensure that working people have the means to purchase consumer items, housing, and other goods and services. Companies have to hire more people to keep up with demand – and the good jobs keep coming.

    That's why the Republican Party platform of 1956 boasted that “unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions” during Dwight D. Eisenhower's first term. Back then Republicans understood that a growing middle class was good for the entire economy. That party platform also said that “America does not prosper unless all Americans prosper.” Their rule: No shirkers.

    But then in those days our economy wasn't dominated by Wall Street megabanks – institutions that don't build or sell anything. And politicians weren't completely in bankers' pockets back then, because the public wouldn't have tolerated it.

    We shouldn't tolerate it now.
    Just curious Speech, how much would you be making if YOUR boss didn't have to compete with the union scale for wages AND benefits?
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    Dec 15, 2012, 07:37 PM
    Hi Tal but don't you know speech did it all on his own without any help just like all of those other fat cats, there is nothing wrong with unions properly administered and responsive to the members, but in speech's world unions get in the way by insisting on fair pay, etc. If unions overreach then the bosses move the plant, but no individual has the power to stand up to the corporation.
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    Dec 16, 2012, 03:14 AM
    there is nothing wrong with unions properly administered and responsive to the members,
    The unions early on in this country's history were corrupted by organized crime. Once labor laws codified union demands there was no more justification for their existence . Today ,they work hand in hand with the government to confiscate a percentage of union members wages . The unions then transfer that theft into the hands of the politicians . The rank and file get little benefit from that exchange. Eventually employers find other places to operate ;either in right to work states ,or by outsourcing .

    I'll also point out that even FDR and the early labor movement folks understood that there was NO place in public employment for unions . Why ? Because they saw unions as vehicles to get workers more of the profits they help create. Public employess don't generate profits. They negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.” That was also the position of George Meany;the former president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O .That was true through that Eisenhower era you discuss .
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    Dec 16, 2012, 05:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The unions early on in this country's history were corrupted by organized crime. Once labor laws codified union demands there was no more justification for their existence .
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    You know, Tom, you become more and more a right wing mouthpiece everyday. You seem to have a real problem with organised crime over there, must be the enterprenual spirit at work or maybe it is just your politicians can be bought. I expect you will be telling us next BO is just an organised crime stooge
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    #51

    Dec 16, 2012, 05:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    a resume is only history, what are you capable of
    Can I borrow this? I think it would make a great tagline ;)
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    Dec 16, 2012, 05:50 AM
    Sure Dad you are welcome, remember to credit me
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    #53

    Dec 16, 2012, 06:49 AM
    I expect you will be telling us next BO is just an organised crime stooge
    Guess you aren't familiar with the Daley Machine in Chi-town.
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    #54

    Dec 16, 2012, 02:24 PM
    It was a rhetorical question Tom

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