[peeweeinoc]

Dr bill had 4 glasses of wine and one club can 150 hours prior to EtG test
Possible to pass? Likely to fail? 100

[DrBill100]

There is no EtG present at that time span regardless of amount of alcohol consumed.

[peeweeinoc]

Dr. Bill,

Do trace amounts of detectable EtG remain in one's system after 130 hours of no
Consumption?

[DrBill100]

dr. bill,

do trace amounts of detectable etg remain in one's system after 130 hours of no
consumption?

No. Not from ingested alcohol.

It's possible that the body may produce minute amounts of EtG from endogenous ethanol production.

[peeweeinoc]

No. Not from ingested alcohol.

It's possible that the body may produce minute amounts of EtG from endogenous ethanol production.

Okay, so what does that mean like from sugar or bread in your system or other sources like the hand sanitizers, etc

[DrBill100]

No. Those are all ingested. EtG is created in ratio to the EtOH content of those products.

EtOH can also be fermented from yeast and sugar interacting with intestinal enzymes.

But it is also possible that very small amounts of alcohol are generated in the cells of your body as most cells have the capacity to metabolize alcohol.

Those amounts are so small as to be undetectable in any standard test. I probably led you off subject.

The answer to your question is that EtG does not survive in your system for 130 hours. It's simply gone, eliminated.

[peeweeinoc]

No. Those are all ingested. EtG is created in ratio to the EtOH content of those products.

EtOH can also be fermented from yeast and sugar interacting with intestinal enzymes.

But it is also possible that very small amounts of alcohol are generated in the cells of your body as most cells have the capacity to metabolize alcohol.

Those amounts are so small as to be undetectable in any standard test. I probably led you off subject.

The answer to your question is that EtG does not survive in your system for 130 hours. It's simply gone, eliminated.

Thank you, as it relates to the cells, can a person who abstains from alcohol
Generate this tiny amount of alcohol from their cells?
Generate this tiny

[peeweeinoc]

thank you, as it relates to the cells, can a person who abstains from alcohol
generate this tiny amount of alcohol from their cells?
generate this tiny

Just curious so even someone who abstains from alcohol can generate a
Tiny amount of alcohol from their cells ?

[peeweeinoc]

Back again,

So does the body have some EtG in it, without even consuming alcohol or ethanol
Like from other sources?

Just curious so even someone who abstains from alcohol can generate a
Tiny amount of alcohol from their cells ?

[DrBill100]

Back again,

so does the body have some etg in it, without even consuming alcohol or ethanol
like from other sources?

just curious so even someone who abstains from alcohol can generate a
tiny amount of alcohol from their cells ?

That is a working theory... intracellular ethanol production. Practically, it has no application in the testing field.

Anyway, here is a study that goes into the phenomenon in a little more detail and would also provide references to previously developed information.

Endogenous Ethanol Production

[peeweeinoc]

Dr. Bill,

You have done a lot of comparative analysis on people passing the test;
To your knowledge has there been anyone that has failed; with a zero threshold
Limit; after 130 hours of no alcohol? Its for court so I presume the threshold is just
About 0.?

[DrBill100]

No one to my knowledge and I maintain every published study available since 1995. The flip side of that coin is that I have over 100 cases where people have failed the test after being abstinent for months and even years.

[peeweeinoc]

No one to my knowledge and I maintain every published study available since 1995. The flip side of that coin is that I have over 100 cases where people have failed the test after being abstinent for months and even years.

Wow, I am guessing many of these failures could have been explained by the detergents and household products and other exposures they warn
You to stay away from like, mouth wash etc.

[peeweeinoc]

You mentioned you knew of over 100 cases where people have failed the test after being abstinent for months and even years.

Was there anything that could have explained these failures other than the
Unreliability of the test? Like the common household products they warn
Can cause positive results?

[peeweeinoc]

Dr. Bill,

You mentioned some 100 cases where people have failed the test after being abstinent for months and even years.

Could any of these be due to the many common household products that contain
Alcohol or from the things they tell you to stay away from that can cause false
Positives?

Also, do your records indicate more people passing within the time limit than
Of the 100 that have failed?

[DrBill100]

Wow, I am guessing many of these failures could have been explained by the detergents and household products and other exposures they warn
you to stay away from like, mouth wash etc.?

There are at least 2000 products that you are not warned about. But many cases cannot be explained by low level incidental exposure combined with bad timing.

[DrBill100]

The people who pass this test after drinking (false negatives based on the 80 hour claim) out number false positives by at least 1000 to 1.

[peeweeinoc]

So can I ask you dr. Bill,

If you were to guess, what are my chances of passing with 130 hours + post consumption. Keeping in mind the 100 cases who have failed with no explanation of failure. Have more passes than failed at that time interval. Do you have any type of data for that?

[peeweeinoc]

So can I ask you dr. Bill,

If you were to guess, what are my chances of passing with 130 hours + post consumption. Keeping in mind the 100 cases who have failed with no explanation of failure. Have more passes than failed at that time interval. Do you have any type of data for that? Could you make an educated guess for me?

[stacygirl71]

How long would 12 non-alcoholic Odouls beers remain prersent for ETG testing in a 6ft/250lb male? If testing is approximately 70 hours later is there a risk of failing?