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    #61

    Aug 21, 2012, 09:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Or if the atheist survived a smashup and the Christian didn't?
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What if?
    Where was God?
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    #62

    Aug 21, 2012, 09:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Me. I was watching.. Mark Martin is MY man... I saw his car approaching the wall.. I WILLED it not to hit, and it didn't. Who's to say that I didn't keep him safe?

    excon
    Oh but it did hit. And if you were a god I wouldn't be kicking your a$$ in baseball again. :p
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    #63

    Aug 21, 2012, 09:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Where was God?
    You think He left?
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    #64

    Aug 21, 2012, 10:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You think He left?
    He saved the atheist and not the Christian?
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    #65

    Aug 21, 2012, 10:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You think He left?
    So much for personal responsibility again. Apparently we are all controlled by a being in the sky.
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    #66

    Aug 21, 2012, 04:14 PM
    I was under the impression God loved ALL his children? I guess I don't know. I'm not sure I even belong on this thread...
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    #67

    Aug 21, 2012, 07:48 PM
    Yes It God loves all his Children but in order to enjoy his blessings you need a relationship with him. Not everything I do would necessarily please my father, but if we are close we can work it out.
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    #68

    Aug 22, 2012, 06:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    He saved the atheist and not the Christian?
    Do you have a problem with that? I don't.
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    #69

    Aug 22, 2012, 06:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So much for personal responsibility again. Apparently we are all controlled by a being in the sky.
    Presence = control? You need a dictionary?
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    #70

    Aug 22, 2012, 06:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes It God loves all his Children but in order to enjoy his blessings you need a relationship with him.
    Apparently that isn't so. I have zero relationship with any god and I seem to be protected.
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    #71

    Aug 22, 2012, 06:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Presence = control? You need a dictionary?
    So he's just 'there' but never does anything? Weird.
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    #72

    Aug 22, 2012, 06:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So he's just 'there' but never does anything? Weird.
    And you're a parent?
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    #73

    Aug 22, 2012, 06:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And you're a parent?
    I'm an awesome parent at that! I am active in my parenting. I show them stuff, teach them stuff, take them places, mend their wounds, etc... I don't even require that my kids get on their knees and worship me. Cool eh?
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    #74

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:00 AM
    But you never let them do their own thing?
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    #75

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:02 AM
    Sure I do.
    If you're equating this to your god, this'll be interesting.
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    #76

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:17 AM
    Equating? No, just demonstrating the obvious you can't seem to recognize.
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    #77

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:19 AM
    Ok, explain the obvious I am missing.
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    #78

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:32 AM
    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So much for personal responsibility again. Apparently we are all controlled by a being in the sky.

    Presence = control? You need a dictionary?
    So you are active in parenting, "show them stuff, teach them stuff, take them places, mend their wounds, etc." but you still let them do their own thing.

    What's the difference?
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    #79

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:36 AM
    Do you actually hear voices in your head from your god? Does he come down and pick you up after you fell of your bike?
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    #80

    Aug 22, 2012, 07:50 AM
    Sigh... the issue was "Presence = control?" Obviously presence does not equal control.

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