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    Aug 12, 2010, 06:56 PM
    Add Equipment ground bar or remove cross-bar b/w neutrals?
    I have a GE main breaker load center box in a separate building. It did not come w/ an equipment ground bar. Is it OK to:

    1. Remove the cross bar and ground left side neutral to box w/ supplied screw.

    2. Attach supplied lug to left side bar and 1/0 ground from SER cable, then all ground wires here.

    3. Connect 2/0 from SER cable to right side neutral bar and all neutral branch circuits here.

    4. Or, keep cross bar and add a separate equipment ground bar to box?

    It is a 12/24 circuit box and I will not need more than 12 circuits.

    Thanks!

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    Aug 13, 2010, 05:53 PM
    Purchase the additional ground bar. Never alter the panel original configuration, it's unwise and it could affect the UL listing. The two neutral bars provide easier access when wiring, a neater panel and room for expansion... even if you think you won't need it. This is a sub-panel, correct? You know that it requires a 4 wire feed in addition to a separate ground rod... right?
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    Aug 13, 2010, 06:41 PM
    [QUOTE=Missouri Bound;2481000]Purchase the additional ground bar. Never alter the panel original configuration, it's unwise and it could affect the UL listing. The two neutral bars provide easier access when wiring, a neater panel and room for expansion....even if you think you won't need it. QUOTE]

    Ground bars are cheap. I'll just add one. The reason I ask is b/c the instructions that came w/ box states:

    " Optional wiring of neutral and ground
    The neutral crossbar may be removed to provide optional neutral and ground. Right or left"

    It came w/ grounding screw. There is a a grounding screw location on the right and left bar that goes into box. And it came w/ additional lug. Picture indicates insulated ground or neutral both sides.

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Bound View Post
    You know that it requires a 4 wire feed in addition to a seperate ground rod......right?
    Yes. You helped me w/ this earlier. I got the 4-4-2-1 SER cable. I've completed all the wiring in the building and have the box and entrance conduit installed. I plan to pull the cable this weekend. I plan to pick-up #2 ground wire and ground rod tomorrow and install as well.

    Thanks again.

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    Aug 13, 2010, 06:59 PM

    Looks like you already had your answer... did you snooker me?
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    Aug 14, 2010, 04:29 AM

    No sir! I was checking for understanding. In the same pic I mentioned above there is also an equipment ground. So this was confusing to me.

    I had heard of this method before. But I'm a DIY'r and do not fool w/ service boxes often.

    Thanks!
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    Aug 14, 2010, 05:38 AM

    Well, one more thing. Since you admitted being a DIY... please proceed with caution. Have help from someone who knows the dangers involved with electrical work. You just can't be too cautious. Equipment can be replaced... your life cannot.

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