[Moekie01]

I LOOOOVVEE cat especially kittens but I know if you breed most of them end up in the pound and\or get euthenized and I don't want that to happen but I loove kittens if you have any ideas then please tell me any thing at all

[hheath541]

Adopt a kitten and love it, even when it's not a kitten anymore. Would you stop loving your children just because they weren't babies anymore?

[morgaine300]

I'm a little confused. Are you talking about breeding a cat so you can have more kittens? There's plenty of breeding already going on - so go get a stray from a shelter.

Or are you actually talking about breeding so you can get kittens and then dumping them in a pound when they get too old. That thought hadn't occurred to me until I read what hheath wrote.

If you only want kittens, you don't really have a lot of choice. I would HOPE you don't want them to end up in the pound!! So you either a) don't get to have a kitten, or b) you let it do what it's going to do, which is grow up and become a cat and you keep it as a cat, and still love it. If you have issues with part b, then don't be getting any animals at all.

[Sariss]

You should go volunteer at a humane society so you can pay attention to the cats and kittens there.

[Emily94]

A great thing to do, if you only want kittens, would be to foster a kitten through a local shelter. You can foster the kitten, and chances are before they become adults they will have homes. I don't really like this post, why would you breed a cat over and over and over? Clearly you DO NOT "love" them, you love the idea of having one. Walk down an isle at a local rescue.. It is heartbreaking, why would you want to add to that? Also, the health risk to the unspayed female, what if she needs a C-setion? Doubt your going to pay, and chances are ALL the kittens will die.

[hheath541]

I get the impression the op is either a young teen, or possibly even a preteen. Either way, they clearly have no idea what all goes into having a pet. There's more to it than just feeding them and petting them.

If I'm right, then it'll be at least a couple years before a shelter or humane society would allow them to volunteer. Hopefully the parents are responsible enough to not allow an animal to breed just so their child can have kittens around.

Now, I do have one question for the op; what is it about kittens that you love? Their size? How fuzzy they look? Their playfulness? Something else?

[morgaine300]

I agree that it does sound like someone youngish.

[lJ.]

If you are serious about taking care of another creature's life, then what you must do is start him at a vet if you get a kitten adopted. You must take him reguarily and take him if you have ANY medical concerns. You must feed him reguarily and give him water, clean his litter box, give him attention. You have to take into account how many hours you're home every day, other animals and people in the house, if he is outdoor/indoor [I would recommend indoor for safety purposes], and much more.
What exactly are you afraid of happening?

[lJ.]

i LOOOOVVEE cat especially kittens but i know if you breed most of them end up in the pound and\or get euthenized and i don't want that to happen but i loove kittens if you have any ideas then please tell me any thing at all

I don't fully understand this question description? Is your desire to breed kittens, but you 'don't want something bad to happen' meaning them ending up in the pound?
I am not sure this is even humane. Why are you breeding kittens just to breed them, this seems odd.

[lindzc]

People love pure breeds so I would try not to breed mixed breeds and just sell pure breeds. Also do not sell the kittens to anyone who is in a bad living situation. You want to find them one owner for life. Let people know that this is a maybe 20 year long commitment. Make sure you can provide vet care for the mother as well as the kittens and make sure you advertise like crazy. Ebay, craig's list, your local news paper and even YouTube. Hope this helps :-)

[Alty]

People love pure breeds so I would try not to breed mixed breeds and just sell pure breeds. Also do not sell the kittens to anyone who is in a bad living situation. You want to find them one owner for life. Let people know that this is a maybe 20 year long commitment. Make sure you can provide vet care for the mother as well as the kittens and make sure you advertise like crazy. Ebay, craig's list, your local news paper and even youtube. Hope this helps :-)

So you're advocating breeding? :(

Have you researched how many cats are euthanized every year in shelters because people breed?

Every cat that's bred purposefully is contributing to the over population.

Also, real breeders don't advertise on Ebay, craig's list, the paper or YouTube. Real breeders only sell to people that are carefully screened, and usually there's a waiting list for the kittens their breeders produce.

Have your pets spayed or neutered. There is no reason that any animal should have a litter when there are already so many cats on this earth right now that don't have a home.

[morgaine300]

lindzc, sigh. Do you even read the posts I wonder? This person isn't looking to sell breeded kittens. She WANTS kittens cause she "loves" them but is afraid the rest (that apparently she won't keep) will be euthanized. This isn't a breeder posting this for pete's sake. And I think you're the last person on earth to give advice to someone who is really wanting to seriously breed.

And I really don't want to hear you tell me to stop posting stuff to you. Trust me, there's been at least two more of your posts I could've made comments on and reframed. But man, some of carp you post, you're just asking for it, really.

[hheath541]

Thank you, alty.

lindzc, you REALLY need to read the entire thread before posting. If you had, you would realize that you just told someone that is most likely under the age of 14 that it's perfectly OK to breed an animal just so she can have kittens around, just as long as she only breeds pure breds and sells the kittens over eBay and other sites a REAL breeder would never even touch.

You would have also realized that she was given OTHER advice on how to be around kittens, WITHOUT contributing to overpopulation or becoming a backyard breeder (someone who is NOT respected, liked, supported, or encouraged by real breeders, most pet lovers, or the members of this site).

Please, read the entire thread, give more considerate and responsible responses, and maybe just sit back and observe for awhile before posting so you have the time to see how this site works. Your posts have worried me from the get-go, and I would hate to have to start deleting things.

[Alty]

Heath and Morgaine, I sadly had to have it out with lindzc on another thread today, one where she basically told the OP that he would have to put his cat to sleep, even though he had no diagnosis, hadn't seen a vet, and lindcz didn't recommend that the OP do so, just that lindcz had a cat that had a similar problem and putting it to sleep was what he/she did.

Every posts seems to start with "I had a hamster that had this problem, or, I had a rat that had this problem, or, I had a cat that had this problem, or, I had a dog that had this problem", even though there's no way to know what the exact problem is without seeing a vet.

Lindcz didn't take my advice very well and thinks we're rude for pointing out that her posts aren't helpful and can actually be harmful.

I think it's time for a sticky. Heath, I'd like your input on it, and I'll ask Bella and Shazzy as well. I'll PM you when I get it done, see what you think. :)

[hheath541]

Yeah, I've been following lindzc's posts in this forum, and have been seriously tempted to delete more than one petty argument that was started because of her habit to diagnose and recommend putting the animal down, without knowing what the problem REALLY is.

I don't want to delete posts, because I think she could be good for this site IF she can learn how it works, but I will if this continues. I just can't stand to see scared, worried pet owners being told that the only option is to put the animal down, out of mercy and love of the animal, when there's no way to know WHAT is actually wrong. I hate to think that anyone would read her post, follow the advice, and end up putting down an animal that could have been treated by a simple vet visit.

[morgaine300]

Alty, I saw that thread. You may have "had it out with her," but were more diplomatic than I was. ;) (Seems like a lot of oddly things the last few days and my patience has been running out.)

I don't know if something went on in PM we didn't see, but I had a feeling she was probably not going to be wanting to come back.

There's certainly nothing wrong with a sticky, but you know most people won't read it, especially people who also don't read the thread itself. But it can serve two purposes. One is that some people actually will read it. Sadly, another purpose is it simply "saves our butt" when someone just thinks it's rudeness and doesn't understand the situation - it's easy to just point to that sticky and go "here's the rules." That's why I just go "hey, here's the rules" in the homework all the time, cause even though I wholeheartedly agree with them, it still takes a bit of that pressure off me being the bad guy. (Not that either of us seems afraid of being the bad guy :p, but I definitely get less neg's over telling people we don't do their homework.)

[Alty]

LOL. Ya, I can be the bad guy when I have to be, no problem doing that, especially when it comes to the welfare of kids or animals.